Nevada
Sierra Front-Northwestern Great Basin Resource Advisory Council

 


Meeting Summary

Minutes
Sierra Front-Northwestern Great Basin Resource Advisory Council
April 29 - 30, 2003
Fallon Convention Center, Fallon, Nevad

RAC Attendance and Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes

 9:03 a.m. Tuesday, April 29, 2003 – Meeting Called to Order by Vice Chairman Tina Nappe in the absence of Chairman Etchegoyhen with the following members present: 

 Summary of Motions 

MOVED - by John Falen to set up a Three-RAC subgroup to discuss the landscape initiative
SECONDED – by Ernest Paine
DISCUSSION – Approved by acclamation

MOVED – by Larie Trippet that our Chair and/or Vice Chair write a letter of appreciation and commendation addressing it to Karen Boeger, Terry Reed, the NCA staff, Don Klusman and whoever else is appropriate thanking them for all their efforts during preparation of the Black Rock NCA Plan.
SECOND – by Bill Roullier
DISCUSSION - Approved by acclamation

MOVED - by Jim Eidel that the RAC approve the OHV Guidelines
SECOND - by John Falen
DISCUSSION            - Approved by acclamation.

  Summary of Action Assignments 

1.         Tina Nappe said she would send letters to tourism on public lands panel members and express RAC concern that funding issues related to tourism on public lands, education and mitigation issues need to be more adequately addressed.  She said she could also send copies to the other RACs and to Bob Abbey, BLM Nevada State Director and Bob Vaught Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest Supervisor.

 2.         BLM Carson City agreed to approach a cell phone provider to explore providing cell phone coverage for Sand Mountain.

 3.         Elayn Briggs was tasked with contacting people who were not at the meeting, but would like to serve on the Sand Mountain RAC subgroup.  Jon Crowley will be the main conduit for getting this information out to the users. 

Introductions 

Members of the RAC and BLM employees introduced themselves. 

National RAC Conference in Washington & SNPLMA Round IV Discussion 

   National RAC Conference

Vice Chair Tina Nappe reported on the annual meeting of Resource Advisory Councils that she attended in Washington, DC.  The agenda included a number of briefings from key BLM officials including Secretary of the Interior Norton and Assistant Secretary for Policy, Management and Budget Lynn Scarlett on such subjects as fire policy changes and updates, and the Healthy Forests Initiative.  There was a three-hour presentation on invasive weeds.  BLM Director Kathleen Clarke expressed her enthusiasm for RACs helping with weed issues in the West but was unable to attend the session.  Tina did not hear how other RACs were involved, nor did RACs meet at the end of the session to discuss how they might participate in this issue.  She felt RAC representatives were generally frustrated that there was no time allotted to ask questions and discuss issues.  She brought back many materials that she will make available to the members of the RAC including the Alaska RAC work plan.  Improvements in RAC structure and delays in RAC appointments were also discussed.  Suggestions were made to improve the appointment procedure.  Tina distributed suggestions outlined by the Idaho joint RAC on how to improve the nominating process.  Web page linkage for all RACs through the main BLM web site was proposed.  Tina distributed information on what that design would look like.  The RACs also received a summary on ways to reduce the risk of wildfires. 

Tina said that she thought the meeting was very interesting and appreciated the opportunity to attend and bring back ideas.  She thanked Jo Simpson, Chief of the Nevada BLM State Office, Office of Communications, who was instrumental in putting together the agenda and gathering members to attend. 

She told the group that a big issue was the number of initiatives that are coming down from the Bureau and Department level, often too late for local RACs to discuss.  “Is this important to us,” she asked the RAC, “and at what point do we want to be involved?” 

Suggestions were made on possible ways to control invasive weeds.  The Nature Conservancy sponsored a reception on weeds.  Cheatgrass is being mapped where it currently exists and where it is expected to spread.  As it spreads native ecosystems disappear.  Tina suggested that the RAC go on a field trip, do its own map inventory and discuss efforts to address the problem.  She asked if this is something the RAC can become effectively involved in. 

Terry Reed told the group that an ongoing inventory is in process in most BLM offices.  The Winnemucca Field Office is involved in three weed districts.  Annual opportunities to plan weed control are circulated for signature among many groups to facilitate inventory and control.  It takes a concerted effort to control invasive weeds.  There has been a full time weed position in the Winnemucca office for about a year.  There are ongoing control activities aimed at the worst offenders as well as sharing of application equipment among BLM and local and county entities.  This effort is gaining momentum. 

John Singlaub told the group that the Carson City District is doing about the same thing.  There have been tests of different cheatgrass control methods.  The best way is to rehab quickly after fires, which is one of the main focuses of the Great Basin Restoration Initiative.  Spectral imaging is also being used.  John told the group that he could show them some of the imaging from the Carlin area.  Results from Elko and Ely show more weeds than expected.  The Carson City office is receiving funds to use spectral imaging along the Sierra Front.  Different sources of funding are available.  Spreading Tall White Top is a real problem along the Truckee River.  John told the members that he would welcome counsel from the RAC on this issue. 

Terry told the members that there is a project with the Wildfire Support Group that is a combination of fuels management and rehab.  There is a program to reduce the seed production of undesirable species and promote native species.  The cooperation of owners of contiguous land, especially in the checkerboard area, is very helpful. 

Jim Eidel told the group that what’s coming after cheatgrass is what scares him.  He reminded them that Tina Nappe suggested that the RAC could sponsor a panel addressing the impacts of invasive plants.  The main questions are: what can the RAC do and could a subgroup be effective?  Maybe the RAC could identify sources of labor. 

Sherm Swanson told the members that he thought it would be useful to learn about successes of the last few years.  The order of magnitude of work has increased.  The question, he said, would be what is still challenging to the Districts that the RAC could help with. 

Terry told the group that the ability of the private landowner to secure funding is difficult.  The private landowner who may own several different tracts shouldn’t be counted on to attack this. 

Sherm answered that the cheat grass issue is so different from other issues.  Cheat grass is a fact of life.  There are a number of other weeds that we could keep out. 

Tina commented that a steady source of funding is a real problem.  To what extent are state and county governments helping to remove the problem or are they contributing to it?  She suggested including this in the agenda for the RAC’s summer field trip in July and maybe asking a member of the Humboldt District to attend.

 SNPLMA Round IV Discussion at Mohave-Southern RAC

Tina along with Jacques Etchegoyhen attended the SNPLMA Round IV discussion at the Mohave-Southern RAC meeting in April and the public meeting on this issue and former Senator Bryan’s proposal.  There is some concern about the series of proposals in Northern Nevada.

There are opportunities to acquire lands.  There is interest in the green banking process in which different ranches could be purchased.  The RAC may have some interest in this issue. 

Larie Trippet told the group that he would like to hear what the US Forest Service and BLM are proposing to do so that the percentage of federally owned lands in Nevada does not grow. 

John Singlaub commented that the Legacy Plan has been discussed.  Believe it or not it is hard to dispose of land, he told the group.  At the state level we recognize clearly that there are lands more appropriate in private ownership.  Conservation easements area a way to protect resources while keeping land in private ownership.  There is a lot of misunderstanding about these easements and what they are. 

John Falen commented that a serious problem with selling land in Nevada is that so much of the land is low in value.  The appraisal process takes a lot of time and is very costly.  This removes much of the incentive to buy land from the government.  

John Singlaub commented that overall the sale of property spreads out the cost. 

Terry Reed told the group that the Winnemucca Field Office sold 80 acres in Orovada at over appraised value.  The office received some funding this year dedicated to upfront work.  The District has outlined a proposal to sell a variety of tracts in the hundreds of acres up to a large tract of 9,000 acres proposed to be sold to a single proponent.  Plans are to complete the appraisal process this year and the cultural process next year.  Washington Office approval is needed for the largest direct sale ever.  Terry said that in his opinion BLM should be using all the tools available to dispose of lands that are appropriate for disposal. 

Field Managers’ Program Reports

Winnemucca Field Manager Terry Reed’s Report

1.            Written Summary of the Report is available as Appendix 1.

2.            Additional items covered orally.
a.            The Winnemucca Field Office has been working for almost two years to dispose of some very old furniture and accommodate new staff, especially the NCA staff.  The process started in earnest about two weeks ago with the development of a fairly detailed schedule.  Much of the old furniture will go to other offices. There are pictures in the report of how the staff has been getting by.  Set-up of the new modular furniture has begun and will be completed next week.

Sherm Swanson asked if the District has been very careful to see that no important data has been lost.  Terry answered that about two years ago data stewards were established.  Mike Zielinski, Weed Specialist, has been working to assure that much of vegetative data is recorded.  Most of the map and spatial data is being stored in the map room or electronically.  Data stored in the map room has been cleared out and will be moved back in.  Staff has been encouraged to get data into Central Files.  Second and third copies of things have been tossed, but important records have been carefully preserved.
b.            Public meetings have been held for the NCA RMP.  Terry told the group that they would be hearing more about that later in the meeting.
c.            Cauri Smith, a dedicated NCA Law Enforcement Ranger has been added in Cedarville.  She will spend a lot of time in the backcountry.  
d.            The last ranger position on the District was finally filled.  He came on board several weeks ago and was scheduled to complete federal officer training, but about a week ago he was called up to National Guard duty that may last a year.  Management has assured him that they will adjust to this.
e.            Six hundred and twenty acres of greenstripping were just completed.  There is more about the rehab efforts in the written report.
f.            The Wildfire Support Group is receiving national attention in how it has been set up to include private ranchers in the fire suppression effort.  There is a lot of support for this group.

Karen Boeger asked if all the fire rehab projects are or will be fenced.  Terry answered that specific vegetative objectives are set.  Deferment or a rest from grazing is built into that.  BLM rehab rules only allow temporary fencing and not all rehab areas are fenced.  Hundreds of miles of fence have been built in the last few years.  One to two years is the average rest period.
g.            Wild horse gathers have taken place.

Tina Nappe asked if BLM has the resources to keep moving the horses at the rate the RAC has discussed.  Terry answered that there was a Nevada BLM workshop this week to discuss strategy, but yes BLM is slipping.  John Singlaub added that BLM gathered more the first year than they thought they would so more funding was used that year and less funding was left for this year.  Terry told the group that there have been some funding shifts within the state to accommodate this but BLM can only do so much.  This is a high priority for Bob Abbey.
h.            Winnemucca participated in a meeting in Reno on April 24 with BLM State Office Renewable Resources, Winnemucca Fire, Fuels and Renewable Resources, and UNR School of Agriculture to plan a proposal to study the effectiveness of grazing to reduce fuel loadings in certain areas of the District.  Goals and objectives were developed and agreed upon.  Five allotments were chosen and prioritized for the study based on pre-identified criteria such as NEPA documents completed, T&E species absent or present, grazing system in place, permittee input, etc.

Karen Boeger asked if there is a plan to use prescriptive grazing in the five allotments and what the process is for using information in these studies.  Terry told her that one of the guiding principles in this effort is to support it with intensive monitoring.  There is tremendous variation in the processes used by operators.  BLM wants to use timing monitoring and follow up treatment.  This effort is at the ranchers’ initiative.  BLM may try a combination of sheep and cattle in successive years so it will be a long process but the Bureau wants to substantially involve the operators and ag students in the monitoring.  The District is looking to put a proposal and a package together now, probably for next year.  A single NEPA document will probably be completed to address all five allotments.  Meg Jensen, Deputy State Director Division of Natural Resources, Lands and Planning, told the group that a grazing policy input meeting was held in Winnemucca last week.  John Falen was also at that meeting.  It was a public workshop with approximately 30 people in attendance to introduce the Sustaining Working Landscapes initiative.  The five parts of the initiative are:

Allotment restructuring
Conservation easements
Common resource allotments
Conservation partnerships
Endangered Species Act mitigation

BLM is looking to develop policy for its field offices.  Allotment restructuring, for example, may involve two allotment operators taking two different strategies.  Operators displaced on their home allotments may go to other allotments to graze their livestock.  Conservation projects on private lands could mean stream channel enhancements, for instance, where the operator could do the work for BLM as a contractor.  These are only concepts right now.  BLM has had a lot of discussion about involving the RACs.  Concept papers are in development that BLM would like to bring back to the RACs.  All of the states are having these meetings.  A national team will put together a white paper on these concepts that will be distributed for broader review.  The grazing regulations are regulatory changes being proposed.  The landscape initiative is a complimentary track but different.  It is hoped this initiative will be implemented by November 2003.  John Singlaub added that Nevada is unique because it has people on the lands throughout the year and because there is so much BLM land in the state.

Tina Nappe told the RAC it might consider a committee to look at the proposals.  This is an area where each RAC might want to have a subgroup due to the fact that the RAC only meets again in July and October.  Terry commented that maybe a subgroup of all three RACs should be considered to match the timing of the proposals.

John Falen told the group that the meeting in Winnemucca was a very good one.  There was a lot of dialogue.  He has just spent a week in Washington with the grazing task force.  The idea of conservation easements has a lot of merit.  Reserved common allotments were a large part of the discussion, but he feels that there are a lot of problems with them.  The industry feels that this concept is not going to fly.  The permittee holds grazing rights to the allotment.  If he isn’t going to use it, he doesn’t need BLM to come in and manage it.  There is a movement in the industry to reinstate the old advisory boards.  He told the group that it might be appropriate to have a subgroup of the RACs to dovetail into the advisory boards.  The board could be composed of one member from a RAC and the balance permittees. 

MOVED - by John Falen to set up a Three-RAC subgroup to discuss the landscape initiative.
SECONDED – by Ernest Paine
DISCUSSION - Approved by acclamation.   

i.            Several issues acted on because of RAC counsel are included in the report.  The staff is developing plans for the July field trip.

j.            Several large mine actions are pending.  The Getchell Mine is becoming more active again.  The Coeur replacement bond and cash deposit have taken place.  The field office is moving forward on the Ormat geothermal power plant expansion proposal.

John Mudge commented that the process is underway with the State to rework reclamation plans, bonding processes, etc.

k.            A new EA dealing with Burning Man 2003 is nearly finished.

l.            RAC members received a handout on the Lovelock Cave scenic byway.

m.            Wind energy proposals are moving slowly and mapping has revealed a large overlap with sage-grouse leks.

n.            NEPA has been completed in cooperation with several other agencies to complete Mormon cricket treatment.  Some spraying has already been conducted.

o.            There is a Wild Horse and Burro show including an adoption in Winnemucca in June.

p.            The Porter Springs occupancy trespass resolution partnership has been put together to manage the site.

q.            The field office is working to put together a public/private partnership workshop with Humboldt Development Authority, the City of Winnemucca, Humboldt County, and the Winnemucca Convention and Visitors Authority to promote economic development and tourism.   

Karen Boeger asked about the latest information on the proposal for communication sites at Blue Lake.  Terry answered that communication specialists are still looking at dead communication areas in that location.

Carson City Field Manager John Singlaub’s Report

1.            Written Summary of the Report is available as Appendix 2.

2.            Additional items covered orally.

a.            The Walker River Mediation Team is still meeting and still hopeful.

b.            There is no schedule for the release of the Walker River EIS.  The impetus has been turned over to BOR because money for this was received through the Farm Bill.

c.            BLM is in the process of getting the brothels demolished at Mustang Ranch so they can get on with what John told the group he considers the more important work.  Some material from the Ranch is being auctioned on Ebay.

d.            The field office has committed to a geothermal/wind energy consolidated resource management plan with Churchill County, the US Navy, the Bureau of Reclamation, the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and the Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe.

e.            BLM is struggling with Atlantic Richfield on Yerington Mine.

f.            The field office has received two applications for inter-basin transfers of water into the north valley of Reno.  The staff will be working on a single EIS for both.

Karen Boeger asked if the EIS covers impacts to wildlife even on private land.  John answered, “Yes, BLM has to look at the whole project.”

g.            Status hasn’t changed on the Sierra Pacific Tracy to Silver Lake project.  BLM is looking at an alternative that goes up Antelope Valley that has received the most comment from the public.

h.            BLM is looking to get a protest dismissal at a higher level for the North Douglas County Land Sale.

i.            BLM is making sure a large scope of alternatives is included in the Pine Nut Plan Amendment.  OHV use is being changed to existing roads and trails.  The perception is that this is a closure.  It is not.  BLM is working with members of the public on this.

Larie Trippet asked if what was discussed at the OHV group meetings will be included in the alternatives.  John answered that the ideas have been included in one of the alternatives.  Larie said that there has been some perception by members of the group that they are not being involved.

Tina Nappe commented that the RAC has not been involved very much.

 Jim Eidel, Larie Trippet, and Ernie Paine expressed interest in being involved in a Pine Nut subcommittee. 

BLM is looking at fuels treatments for wildland/urban interface issues in the Pine Nut area and will be providing some of the materials for a biomass project with the City of Carson City.

j.            The Carson City field office hopes to have four horse gathers this summer.  It is anticipated that about 400 horses will be taken out of the four areas.

k.            Following sufficient rain and snowfall, the Jack Wright Fuels Treatment Project is finally underway.

l.            Public interest groups are dueling over the Wilson Canyon OHV area.  The Wilson Canyon Alliance doesn’t agree with what it considers increased OHV use in the area.

m.            BLM will be talking about Sand Mountain most of the day Wednesday.  Fifty thousand dollars in fees have been collected so far.

n.            Stock water legislation has been proposed at the state level.  The original version allowed BLM to hold water rights jointly with permittees, but the bill has been amended to exclude this right.  BLM has sent out a letter outlining its position.  Legislation has passed the State Senate. 

A member of the public asked if BLM has an estimate of how much money will be brought in at Sand Mountain this year.  John answered that it would be approximately $100,000. 

Matt Spaulding, BIA, asked John Singlaub to elaborate on BLM’s cooperation with the Pine Nut Allotments Association.  John told him that the Pine Nut Owners Association’s concerns are OHVs crossing private property and rights-of-way.  Right now there is no communication with the allotment owners.  BLM can’t find out their names.  Matt asked if BLM has gone through the BIA Superintendent’s Office to identify the allotment owners.  He said he would ask through the Superintendent’s Office if a scoping letter could be sent to the allotment owners.  Matt also announced that there will be a new BIA resource officer starting May 5, Steve Brown.

  Jo Simpson, Chief of the Nevada BLM State Office, Office of Communications, commented that the RAC was very well represented by Tina Nappe in Washington.  She asked if the RAC members would like her to contact the other RACs to get them involved in forming a subgroup to look at the Sustaining Working Landscapes initiative.  The members agreed.  John Falen and Ernie Paine will be on the subgroup.  Others not on the RAC will be considered for participation.  Their names will be given to Jo. 

Black Rock – High Rock NCA Plan Update 

Ester Hutchison, NCA Planning and Environmental Coordinator, displayed wall maps used at the recent public meetings to show proposed closures of OHV routes for the different alternatives.  She told the group that the public comment period for the Draft Black Rock Desert-High Rock Canyon Emigrant Trails NCA and Associated Wildernesses EIS/RMP closes June 16.  A total of 103 people attended the public meetings held in Winnemucca, Gerlach, Cedarville, Sacramento, and Reno.  Winnemucca and Gerlach each had 11 attendees and Cedarville had 35. 

The next steps in the process after the comment period closes are to review the comments received and develop the proposed RMP based on them, publish the final EIS and proposed RMP, initiate the 30-day protest period and concurrent 60-day governor’s consistency review, publish the Record of Decision and develop the implementation plan. 

The BLM is still on track to meet the Congressional deadline of December 20, 2003, three years from enactment of the law that created the NCA, but barely.  They are still pushing to make it. 

The next RAC NCA subgroup meeting is May 9.  Another meeting is planned in June to go over anything that wasn’t discussed in May and to thank the subgroup for their work. 

Ester distributed very brief summaries of the alternatives by resource. 

Larie Trippet asked what the consequences are if BLM doesn’t meet the deadline.  Ester told him that there are no penalties.  Terry Reed told the group that BLM has made a very strong commitment to meet the deadline.  If there hadn’t been many months of delays getting federal register notices published, BLM would be meeting it with time to spare. 

Tom Baker, US Forest Service, asked if the OHV closures conflict with the legislation that says no routes would be closed.  Terry answered that the legislation actually says BLM can designate routes open and closed in the planning effort.  This has been BLM’s interpretation for quite some time.  The alternatives include different designations.  Inholding access would not be impacted. 

Don Klusman, Chairman of the NCA Subgroup, told the members of the RAC that when they formed the subgroup and the group started talking about this there were a lot of sideboards or constraints that needed to be addressed.  The group has come together better than any he has participated in, he told them.  He said he wanted to thank this RAC and the Northeast California RAC for supporting the NCA Subgroup and to commend the NCA staff.  “They thought if they gave us more work we would go away, he said, but they gave us more work and we worked them harder!”  The group is hoping for no protests, no lawsuits.  He commended the people that are on the subgroup as well as the members of the RACs.  He commended Jamie Thompson, NCA Staff Writer-Editor, who he said he communicated with him quite often, especially on agendas.  He also extended kudos to Ester.  Kathleen Clarke has commended the group for all its work, he said, and he wanted to come to the meeting and give the RAC his commendation. 

Tina Nappe thanked Don on behalf of the RAC and thanked the members of the group and the staff.  Karen Boeger also thanked Don and added that much of what the subgroup has accomplished is due to his abilities.  Terry Reed added that all, including the contractor, the staff, the subgroup, and the public have cooperated in this effort. 

Rochanne Downs, Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe, told the group that as a member of the subgroup she wanted to ask if the plan and discussions on the plan had happened between BLM and the Tribes on a government-to-government level.  She said that she wanted to make sure that the other Tribes are involved.  Terry Reed answered that the consultation process, especially with the Summit Lake Tribe, is underway.  BLM is certainly open to further consultation with any Tribe that wants to be involved.  Jamie Thompson commented that a letter was sent to each Tribe BLM was aware wanted to be involved within the last 30 days.  That was the third mailing.  He said it would be helpful if BLM knew who all the other players are.  The first two mailings went to Tribal chairs, so the last mailing went to the entities and not to just one person.  Matthew Spaulding, Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) representative, asked that BLM send the letter to the BIA not just the Tribes, because sometimes communication breaks down between the different entities.  Sometimes Tribes can’t afford to come to the meetings.  He asked that BLM communicate with his office and they can facilitate the entities getting together.   Jamie told him that BLM would be glad to come to the Tribes.  Terry added that BLM needs to know that the Tribes want them at their meetings and to be on their agenda.  BLM will make sure that staff has Matt’s name and address and sends copies of those letters to him.  Jamie said that he believed the staff had done that, but they will make sure that the BIA office gets them in the future. 

Karen Boeger commented that it would be very helpful if all RAC members could get their comments to the subgroup before May 9.  She said the summaries that were distributed should be very helpful in making comments. 

Terry commented that it might be helpful for the team to find out if everyone means to submit some comments and set up a date. 

Bill Roullier told the members that he had one comment that he planned to submit.  From a transportation and rights-of-way viewpoint the closure or undergrounding of the utility corridors, particularly in one case, would be cost-prohibitive and this is an issue.  As it enters the area, the corridor is in the vicinity of the Applegate-Lassen Trail.  He said he would suggest that providing another alternative would be constructive.  He said he thought with some discussion some other ways could be found to mitigate any problems.  Ester commented that the portion that would have to go underground is in Alternative B; the three miles that cross the Trail.  Don Klusman added that the issue was discussed a lot and the subgroup hoped that they could get some comments from the RAC members. 

Jim Eidel commented that this is also a sage-grouse issue.  There is a much wider impact than was previously known.  Terry said that he doesn’t think that is an issue in terms of this particular corridor in that particular location. 

Sherm Swanson commented that the vegetative management section strikes him as problematic. 
He said that Objective 2 on page 212, single species management for sage-grouse, seemed to him to be a little narrow and tying BLM’s hands.

  John Falen asked if any of the ranchers involved, any that have property in the area, were involved in the meetings.  Karen Boeger answered that Lani Estill, James Linebaugh and others have been involved extensively and have given presentations to the subgroup. 

Larie Trippet commented that so many diverse groups have been involved that he finds it difficult to nitpick at this time. 

MOVED - by Larie Trippet that our Chair and/or Vice-Chair write a letter of appreciation and commendation addressing it to Karen Boeger, Terry Reed, the NCA staff, Don Klusman and whoever else should be appropriate, thanking them for all their efforts.
SECOND – by Bill Roullier
DISCUSSION - Approved by acclamation. 

Tina Nappe pointed out that such a letter had already been sent and although Don Klusman had not been included it would certainly be appropriate to include him. 

Tina suggested that before the lunch break each RAC member talk about one activity that they had been involved in the last few months that the RAC could be involved in, but the group decided there was not enough time before the lunch break to accomplish this. 

Promoting Tourism on Public Lands in Nevada & Mitigating Its Impacts - Panel Discussion 

The RAC has been very concerned about rural communities and how they can be brought into the tourism arena.  In preparation for this meeting each panelist was given approximately eight minutes to talk about tourism. 

Rick Gray, Executive Director, Fallon Convention and Tourism Authority, told the group that it is very important that government agencies work with communities like Fallon.  In a recent case assessment of OHV fees at Sand Mountain was done without input from the city or the county.  It’s difficult to go forward without that cooperation.  The states can go out ahead of the governmental agencies and promote resources creating a danger of contaminating the resources.  Rick said that he sees challenges there. 

The State is doing a great job of promoting Nevada.  The Convention and Visitors Authority works very well with BLM.  The group is currently updating a brochure and visitors guide including an itinerary of places that visitors can visit over a two-day period.  Rick said that in helping to develop these itineraries he has discovered a wealth of treasures in Churchill County.  He pointed out the brochure “America on the Edge” and said Churchill County hopes to develop something like it. 

Tom Baker, State and Private Forestry Liaison, Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest, told the group that he works directly for the Forest Supervisor with state and private forestry.  His group distributes grant money.  One of the requirements for a grant is that a community has to have 25 percent of its economy dependent on the National Forest.  In Nevada this occurs through tourism.  The group supports recreation through the Forest Service and the Forest Service grants program.  Rural community assistance grants up to $10,000 can support anything a community is looking for from museums, trails, boardwalks, to community center studies, and much more.  He said it is really exciting to see some of the projects that communities come up with.  The National Forest has also been working closely with BLM on wildfire fuels projects.  What they are looking for in rural assistance grants is something to promote recreation but also the rural economy.  Recreation equals quality of life equals economic development.  Recreation is a key component of economic development.  It is a key component for the future of Nevada. 

Larry Friedman, Nevada Commission on Tourism & JoLynn White, Commission Marketing Director, told the group that two years ago the Commission started an infrastructure grant program up to $200,000.  The program has been implemented only once to fund 20 projects.  The Commission has requested an increase in grant money, but has not received one.  

The Commission is the leading agency for the state Scenic Byway program.  It has divided the state into five geographic territory areas with a sixth “cultural” area.  Anyone wanting to attend one of the territory meetings is welcome.  On the federal level, 13 western state tourism entities have entered into an MOU with federal agencies.  Larry said he has wondered if the issues at the local level have been taken into consideration during the dialogue with these agencies. 

The new Nevada Commission campaign  “Nevada, Bring It On” is an adventure campaign that promotes recreation particularly on public land.  This campaign has received much media attention and controversy.  He showed some of the photo boards for the campaign.  He commented that the people in them will certainly make people notice them in a magazine, but the question is will they get people to make a phone call.  Also, are the people being attracted the kind who will respect the land.  The impacts of this campaign are being researched. 

Jim Deloney, Parks Program Manager, Nevada State Parks, distributed information from Nevada State Parks, “Planning for Visitors While Conserving the Resources.”  The State Park system has a $10 million budget and 24 operational units covering 132,524 total acres including: 77,309 state-owned; 55,215 leased (including 4,960 BLM R&PP,  520 US Forest Service Special Permit and 49,736 Bureau of Reclamation/MISCL).  This breaks out to about $3.15 in O&M costs per visitor, with 3.34 average staff per park, and 35,041 average park users per FTE staff. 

The Nevada State Park System Plan was developed in 1997.  Twenty-four detailed development plans, one for each park, were developed in other years.  The legislative direction is to “acquire, protect, develop and interpret a well-balanced system of areas of outstanding scenic, recreational, scientific and historical importance for the inspiration, use and enjoyment of the people of the State of Nevada…”  The estimated economic impact of Nevada State Parks on the Nevada economy is $149 million annually, which Jim said he thinks is a conservative estimate. 

Dr. Dunn, a well known planning and tourism professor and advocate, says tourism development should be balanced with environmental protection.  People often don’t understand the complexity of the infrastructure needed to support tourism.  Tourism is always destination based.  The natural resource base is the most underutilized.  Business, nonprofits and all government entities will be most effective in meeting the needs of visitors if they understand that tourism is dynamic not static, and emphasize cooperation and coordination to satisfy visitor needs without endangering the environment and natural and cultural resources.  Planning is the prime missing ingredient. 

Tina Nappe commented that the RAC’s concern as a Resource Advisory Council is resources on public lands, and how the different entities can work together to mitigate impacts. 

Larie Trippet commented that “The Dirt” is a great publication in terms of the opportunities it lists in Nevada but that three things would make it better.  The concepts of Tread Lightly and Leave No Trace should be added.  It should be enhanced to mitigate conflicts between users by making known where you other user groups might be encountered.  And readers should be informed where they can get information on other lands such as BLM, USFS, etc.  Larry Friedman told him that is easy today with web sites.

  Jim DeLoney commented we often do our planning in our own little microcosm.  Any state would be well advised to understand where the people are coming from.  A survey needs to be done on a state basis. 

Tom Baker commented that a number of surveys have been done by communities. 

Jim Eidel commented that he heard the four panelists say quite a bit concerning promotion and very little concerning mitigation.  If we can’t mitigate the impact of these people are we right in promoting their coming? 

Terry Reed commented that he sees private partners as helping promotion.  Millions of people drive by things in Nevada and don’t even know they’re there.  There are a lot of things we could do to help people use it and not hurt it. 

John Singlaub commented that the statistic that is the most meaningful to him is that all the staff of the federal recreation and land management agencies in the Las Vegas area is smaller than the culinary staff at the Bellagio. 

Tina Nappe asked Larry Friedman if there was any concern in Fallon about the cost of maintaining Sand Mountain, the impact of garbage, etc.  John Singlaub clarified that BLM did go before the board of Churchill County for the fee plan at Sand Mountain.  Rick Gray answered Fallon is very concerned about the resource, keeping it clean, managing it.  He said he thought the county would be very interested in establishing some partnerships among the lodging and food industries in Fallon. 

Bill Roullier commented he wasn’t sure what (sic) they are trying to attract with “The Dirt.”  One of the things I manage is the River Rock that is on Sierra Pacific property, private property that you are telling people to climb, he said.  Larry Friedman answered his reaction would be that they are trying to attract no one.  His concern is that by being so out there the publication attracts attention for the moment or even reinforces an impression of nothing being out there. 

Larie Trippet commented that the book attracts a very young, active audience.  It’s a valuable target to aim at, but maybe it’s too small a target to aim at. 

Larry Friedman answered that at this point any kind of economic development is good, especially for the small communities.  It’s all relative. 

Tom Baker commented that he would really like to take a look at what demographics this campaign is looking at.  These people can play all day, but they can also play all night (at the casinos).  He said that his personal opinion is that someone has to pull all the state and federal agencies together and ask them where they are going for the next five years. 

Jim DeLoney commented that Nevada Parks program got zero for planning in the last appropriation.  He said that what he’s trying to get people to understand is that many of our visitors are going to show up because of the promotion of the gambling industry whether we do anything or not. 

Sherm Swanson commented that a lot of the visitors that are being talked about come to the rural parts of Nevada from other parts of Nevada as well as out of state.  Weed seeds brought by these visitors are going to bring new problems that Nevadans will have to deal with.  He asked if there are tourism dollars that can help with range health.  Larry Friedman answered that the rural grant program was supposed to accomplish this with only $200,000, and that there is not much that can be done.  When the 13 western states get together the front line people are not there, the ones who know the impacts on the land.   Maybe it was naïve on our part, he told the group, to think that we were talking to these people in the federal agencies through the MOUs.  We will continue to promote outdoor recreation as a new tool whatever the campaign is, he told them.  The real question is how we take care of the needs of the visitor and the needs of the land. 

John Singlaub commented that BLM Nevada suffers at the national level because it’s thought of as a mining and livestock state.  We are twelfth in funding (for recreation), but more people are coming. 

Larry Friedman commented that for the most part they all share the same concerns, but where do they take it from here?

  John Singlaub commented that what resonates right now, especially with this Administration is the economic development component.  A specific example is funding for the Trails Center in Elko.  

Jim Eidel commented fish and wildlife figures have shown that there are more bird watchers in the US than hunters or golfers.  You’re focusing on the adventure that is only the adventure of the young people.  Larry Friedman answered that is why he mentioned the Nevada Commission grant program. 

  Terry Reed commented that another statistic that jumped up at him was that it cost Nevada State Parks $3.15 per visitor, but the Park revenue is 55 cents.  We need to get away from recreation that is not self-sustaining.  People are often willing to pay a fee. 

Jim DeLoney commented that his experience has been that we drastically under price to begin with and then have trouble raising it.  He said he thinks the cost at Sand Mountain is much too low.

  Tom Baker commented that you have to show the value to the people who are visiting.

  Sherm Swanson asked if in lieu of a fee system there is a translation between the number of people BLM attracts to a recreation area and the money they get to maintain it. 

Terry Reed commented that funding changes through “legislation, litigation, and lawsuit.” 

Karen Boeger commented that recreation may or may not promote quality of life depending on how it is managed.  Promotion of recreation has to go hand in hand with a respect for the land and being prepared for what is out there.  Rather than trying to dumb down the place, educate the people to the place.  She said she doesn’t see that kind of information being provided.  Federal agencies should educate but not promote. 

Larry Friedman commented that it wouldn’t be up to the land agencies to do the promoting.  He said he would like to give the RAC information on any meetings that the federal agencies and tourism might have together.  He said that he could put a condition on a grant saying that if you receive this money education must be part of the promotion.  The grant opportunities will be offered in June.  He said that he doesn’t have the expertise to do this but would be glad to receive it from Karen or the federal agencies. 

Jim DeLoney commented that the different entities are going to have to be very proactive to direct the activities where they want them to be.  The nonprofits are doing some of the best work right now in cooperation with the public agencies. 

Terry Reed commented that the understanding has to be how it all fits together.  One issue at a time can be really contentious.  Especially in rural Nevada, we need to look at what we want the State to look like in the future. 

Tom Baker commented that people come in with pre-conceived notions.  We have to let people know what we can do.  

John Singlaub commented that regionally or at some local level coming together makes a lot of sense.  BLM is in such a reactionary mode where recreation is concerned. 

Karen Boeger commented that BLM should promote a nationwide program right away like the previous litterbug program, and find every way in the State of Nevada to promote the idea that “you shall stay on designated routes.” 

Tom Baker commented that the green sticker program is great, but the problem is that it got so political.  A way has to be figured out so that that won’t happen and a way to fund it.

  Tina Nappe commented that it seems to her everyone is using the public lands but no one is looking at the costs.  In many ways recreation is not getting the funds it needs in comparison to the burdens it must bear.  She told the group they need to be able to encourage the federal government to address the recreation situation.  There are no operational dollars at the federal, state or local levels.  There may be an opportunity now that the Department of Interior is looking at ways to do things.  People need to start going to the state legislature and saying you need to ante up.  We need to work together to get the operational funds going.  Larry Friedman told the group that there is a Governor’s conference on tourism in December.  There is also a meeting a year from now with tourism people.  These are two opportunities to come together or there could be a stand-alone meeting.  John Falen suggested looking at rewriting the Southern Nevada Public Lands Act.  Larie Trippet told the group that there is a formula to fund some of the OHV activity from the gas tax.  He suggested taking a piece of the room tax to support outdoor recreation.  Larry Falen pointed out that there are a lot of people in line for that money.  Tom Baker commented, “you should be careful what you wish for.”  The Southern Nevada Public Lands Act has a lot of money in it and a lot of people might want some of that money.  Terry Reed suggested that the RAC might want to look at a group with state government/ federal agency participation.  Tom Baker commented that if it comes from the bottom up, from the users, legislators would be tripping over themselves to accommodate you.  People coming together in good faith can get a lot done.  Larie Trippet told the group that a committee needs to come together in the next two years to address OHV.

  Don Klusman told the RAC members that the California green sticker program began in 1972 and has had a lot of growing pains.  Every year the OHV trust fund has approximately $30 million in it.  Four to five million was given last year just to law enforcement.  He told them that things can get done and he feels they’re moving in the right direction.  The users are willing to pay for their recreation but they want to see things out there on the ground.  He said his first thought was that funds should just be applied for, but Nevada has no funds.  He said he would love to give the RAC any information he could to help get things moving, but there needs to be a stakeholders group.  What it takes is people talking.

  Tina Nappe thanked the panel members for their presentations and suggested that this item be put on the agenda for the Tri-RAC meeting in the fall, and a summary of some of the suggestions be sent to BLM Nevada State Director Bob Abbey and Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest Supervisor BobVaught asking how the RAC could pursue this with BLM.  Sherm Swanson said that he thought the suggestions for revision of “The Dirt” and use of the web sites were good ones.  Recreation people in the two BLM District offices should work with the State office to get some of those suggestions implemented. 

Jim Eidel commented that he didn’t hear anything positive in respect to funding.  He said it is also an education problem, that he didn’t see them getting there yet for mitigation.  Tina Nappe said that what the RAC can do is on an educational level.  Sherm Swanson suggested that maybe the RAC could say that BLM should not promote recreation unless they get funding to manage it.  Larie Trippet said that didn’t see how that was workable.  He asked what promoting is.  He said he doesn’t see the BLM advertising and promoting outside of Nevada for people to come here.  Terry Reed said he thought the RAC was talking about working toward some type of comprehensive picture, not just funding.  Tina Nappe said that ideally she would see the RACs working together at a state level, that some type of state forum is needed.  Terry suggested that this could be part of a rural economic development conference, a Governor’s tourism conf, or a land summit.  Tina said that the group could at least put together the recommendations they do have and Larie Trippet commented that maybe they could get the two Bob’s to talk to Governor Guinn. 

Tom Baker told them that he thought they were going in the wrong direction.  He said it needs to come from the Governor or the Lieutenant Governor.  A tourism summit needs to be set up.  All the members of the RAC have to do is get the same enthusiasm that they have now with the other RACs and have them talk about it to everyone else.

  Terry Reed reminded the members that they exist to give counsel to BLM.  They can send a letter to John Singlaub and him and to Bob Abbey suggesting that this is the direction to go, but one RAC can’t do it alone.  There should be a statewide summit with the other RACs.  John Singlaub told the members that he and Terry could send letters thanking the panel members from today and planting that kernel. 

  Jim DeLoney commented that a recommendation could be put in the Parks draft plan that will be on the Nevada State Parks web site to have such a summit, particularly if other people are pushing it. Tina told him that would be helpful if the Parks Department is willing to put it in there. 

Jim Eidel asked John Singlaub if a new generation of management plans would contain implementation of mitigation.  John Singlaub said that they would, but if budget is not there mitigation will not be done.  Jim asked if it would be appropriate for the RAC to make recommendations that the new generation of management plans contain direction to identify recreation mitigation.  John said BLM can put those in, but they will not be implemented if there is not the funding to do it. 

A motion that the RAC receive the administrative draft of the Pine Nuts management plan and revisit the recreation portion at a later time died due to lack of a second.  Vice Chair Nappe pointed out that the subcommittee of Jim Eidel, Ernie Paine and Larie Trippet will look at these topics.

  The Vice Chair said she would send letters to panel members and express RAC concern that these subjects need to be more adequately addressed.  She said she could also send copies to the other RACs and to Bob Abbey and Bob Vaught.

  OHV Standards & Guidelines 

Copies of the OHV Administration Guidelines for Nevada Public Lands were distributed to the RAC.  Karen Boeger and Lari Trippet, Sierra Front RAC representatives to the statewide RAC subcommittee on OHV standards and guidelines, reported to the group.  

Karen told the members that the subcommittee received a lot of input at the Tri-RAC meeting last October.   Larie told the group that the committee met again after the Tri-RAC meeting and took action on every comment.  They compromised on some issues, incorporated others.  Unless there is a strong majority opinion on some issue, he and Karen hope the RAC will approve the Guidelines. 

Jim Eidel asked who they would see monitoring the impacts, that he heard funding issues concerns from BLM on carrying out monitoring.  Terry Reed told him that monitoring would probably at best be reacting to something.  Jim then asked if the OHV community monitors itself.  Larie told him that there are some parts of the OHV community that do not want to be monitored, let alone monitor themselves.  He said the committee members went round and round on the funding issue.  Lack of funding does not preclude what they want to happen.  Robert Kautz commented that he thought monitoring was just a natural outcome of these activities. 

John Mudge asked if the Guidelines being out there improve the possibility of future funding.

Terry Reed told him that it doesn’t, that funding seems to be tied to administrative initiative. 

Jim Eidel asked what the chances there are of distributing the Guidelines to the OHV community. Larie told him that if the document is approved it will go to Bob Abbey.  The use of the document is in the managers’ use and efforts. 

Meg Jensen suggested that the members vote in favor of the Guidelines.  She told them that the Guidelines having been approved by three RACs would make BLM more competitive for funding.  She said she thought it a good idea to distribute them to the OHV community. 

Jim Eidel suggested that the OHV Administrative Guidelines be sent out to the OHV users after they are approved and that the RAC recommend that BLM distribute them to the users as they see fit.  (One of the RAC members thought this was a motion, and provided a second, but the supposed maker of the motion said that it was not intended to be a motion.  All of the suggestions made in discussion of the supposed motion are included in these minutes.) 

Larie told the group that a portion of OHV users is hunters and it would be hard to get the Guidelines to them.  Don Klusman commented that if these were approved they would be referred to in every Environmental Assessment (EA) or Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) that is done.  Terry Reed told the members that the Guidelines are a recommendation to the Bureau and if they are distributed it should be by BLM.  Larie told the group that the target audience was the BLM land managers. 

Sherm Swanson suggested that a press release should go out saying that these were approved by the three RACs as recommendations to BLM. 

Jim Eidel commented that the next to last line in the preamble states “…administrators can use the educational guidelines…to inform the public on OHV use issues and ethics,” that he doesn’t have any problem leaving it up to BLM and the user groups to distribute it.  At the very least it should go to the OHV user groups and the hunter user groups and they should be told to pay particular attention to these four pages. 

Karen commented that she thought the idea of a press release geared toward the users was a good idea, particularly toward the mule deer group incorporating the Tread Lightly education information.  

Mark Struble suggested that all the suggestions go in the letter to Bob Abbey. 

Matt Spaulding told the members that he was seeing a red flag as to how these groups would disseminate this information to all the users that may be impacted. 

Terry Reed commented that there is nothing in the document that causes an on-the-ground immediate change.  Things are encouraged that BLM can affect in a management plan.   

MOVED - by Jim Eidel that the RAC approve the OHV Guidelines.
            SECOND - by John Falen
            DISCUSSION            - Approved by acclamation. 

The RAC will follow up on the suggestions made at their next meeting.

  Future RAC Interaction with Grazing Advisory Boards 

Bernie Romero not being present, Jim Linebaugh, Range Consultant, and Ed Depaoli gave the presentation.  

Jim Linebaugh told the group that there are six grazing advisory boards, one for each BLM District.  The old boards served a variety of functions, worked with BLM on the use of 8100 grazing funds, and did a lot of problem solving.  The new boards are set up mostly to administer the 12 ½ percent of the grazing fees monies.  Lately there has been a significant change in the amount of money given to the boards and there has been some concern over this.  There has been some thought that there should be something to supplement the role of the RACs because they discuss so many different issues, something to strengthen the role of grazing.  This was discussed at the grazing regulations meeting in Winnemucca.  Bob Abbey said that there was no reason that this could not be done.  What Bernie Romero suggests is a joint meeting of the RAC and the two grazing boards that cover lands administered by the Winnemucca and the Carson City BLM.  The idea is to see what kind of ideas would come from this interaction. 

  John Singlaub added that the two boards cover somewhat the same areas as the two BLM Districts.

  Ed DePaoli told the members some of them have been here a long time.  He said he sees the more experienced ranchers passing on some of their knowledge.

  John Falen said that he didn’t see how the two boards could be put together because one is federal and one is state.   He said he sees a subgroup of the RAC that would have a representative from the RAC and a representative from the old advisory boards.  

Terry Reed advised that as a subgroup of the RAC the group could advise on projects but not advise on spending the 8100 money.  Recommendations could not be made on projects based on their costs.  The RAC charter prohibits it. 

Tina Nappe told the group that her concern is whether there is going to be a commitment by non-ranchers over time to participate in some of these issues.  The value for the non-ranching community would be tremendous.  She wondered if it would be worthwhile to do a test case with an integrated component. 

John Falen commented that the grazing boards with a RAC component could still be involved in disputes. 

Ed DePaoli said what he thought Bennie was getting at was that the grazing boards were asking to give the RAC their input on such things as sage grouse and asked if they are willing to listen.

  Vice Chair Nappe asked the members if they wanted to add this topic as an agenda item for their summer program. 

  Sherm Swanson said that a lot of the things mentioned are things that the RAC is already talking about.  He said he would like to see this as a focus at all RAC meetings.

  Terry Reed commented that the RAC would have to be aware of the budget and the 8100 funds.  The other consideration is how much time the RAC can dedicate to it.  He said he wasn’t sure about funding additional participation.  The RAC could invite some of the members of the grazing boards to the next meeting and he and John Singlaub could look into the money aspects.

  Jim Linebaugh said that conflict resolution input might be valuable.  He suggested that a fair amount of agenda time at a future RAC meeting might be allowed to join with a few members of the grazing boards.

  Sherm Swanson suggested that the RAC invite someone to come to the field trip (in July) who has long-term knowledge of the areas the group is going to visit.

  Suggestions for RAC Field Trip in July 

Terry Reed told the members that to not exceed per diem limits the BLM field office is suggesting that some of the meals and the camp for the July field trip be done in-house.  (BLM later decided to hire an outfitter for the meals and the camp.)  The area they are suggesting that the RAC visit is in the Montana Mountains. 

Aspen cloning, sage-grouse, weeds, and fire cycle have already been suggested as topics for the field trip.  Other speakers were suggested in the meeting today.  The RAC wants to look at where there is a need and where these things have been successful. 

John Singlaub told the members that he wanted to talk to John Mudge about how interaction between boards and RACs is done in the mining industry before the grazing boards are contacted.  This may be accomplished before the July meeting. 

Some presentations on the landscape initiative and looking at the Pine Nut Plan Amendment would be valuable at the July meeting.

  Mark Struble told the members that the agenda is to meet in Winnemucca the night before the field trip, eat at a restaurant and go out the next morning.

  Jim Eidel suggested a presentation from Utah State Forestry on the weeds that are coming that are worse than cheat grass would be good for a future meeting.

  Tina Nappe asked him to do a presentation on birds in the aspen grove during the July field trip.

 Sand Mountain Recreation Area; Field Studies of Sensitive Species, Fee Demonstration Project & Future Resource Management Plan Revision 

This is a response by BLM to an inquiry for more information on the Fee Demo Project at Sand Mountain. 

Dean Kinerson, Carson City Field Office plant ecologist, presented a slide program on the Sand Mountain inventory of January 2003. 

Dean began the presentation by showing a map of the area showing the deep drainage on the west side, the dunes and Stillwater Mountains on the north side, and an aerial photograph of the drainage area.  OHV use is designated limited on the south side and open on the north side. 

There are a number of sensitive species in the area.  This inventory focused on the Sand Mountain blue butterfly.  There are also four plants and a number of bee species on the sensitive species list. The global rating of many of the species in the area is still unknown.  The blue butterfly, scarab beetle, click beetle and two species of bee are endemic to Sand Mountain.

Several slides showed the butterfly in various stages of development.  Also shown was a photo of the larvae being tended by an ant.  The ant is able to extract a benefiting excretion from the larvae.  There is more than one species of ant associated with the butterfly.

  The Kearney buckwheat at Sand Mountain might be a variation of the main species.  It is the only plant that the butterfly will lay its eggs on. 

The sand dune is a combination of active and stable.  The plant can adapt as it is buried by the sand but is more adaptable to burial than excavation.  It interacts with other plants in the area. The shrub area in 2002 was about 1,000 acres. 

  There is use at Sand Mountain and impacts from that use.  Slides of use in 1977 and 1987 showed decrease in vegetation through impact of use.  A slide from 1995 showed a closure sign and the impact to the vegetation when the sign is ignored.

  Jon Crowley, Friends of Sand Mountain, commented that the signage might have been put up after the impacts occurred.

  Dean showed slides of jump impacts on shrubs and sand over time.

  There are clay areas that are impervious to water, keeping water closer to the dune surface.  Loss of the impermeable water causes moisture to go lower making it harder for the plants to reach it.

  Widely dispersed plants on tops of swales are more exposed to wind.  Swales have more protection from wind and vehicle traffic.  The difference between ridges and swales will be studied through the monitoring effort. 

High density of trails through vegetation has been observed in areas where vehicles travel from the drainage up the dune, make a tight turn at the top and go back down.

  Dean showed a graph of the estimated yearly visitors.  Use in the 1980s has doubled to present.  Impacts have increased.  There have been over 41,000 visitors through mid fiscal year 2003.

  There was a lot of the discussion in the 1990’s of the areas where there was a lot of impact.  Vehicles are leaving roads established in the ‘90s and driving through the vegetation. 

There is encroachment of roads in habitat that is in the best condition, which in Dean’s opinion shows continual degradation of habitat. 

  A slide showing a digitized network of roads in the area that had been un-impacted showed the density of the roads.

  The plants have some tolerance for disturbance but not repeated disturbance.  The concern is that with repeated impacts and loss of vegetation more butterflies are being lost.

  A slide showed a comparison of impacts to vegetation in the five years 1996 – 2001.  Survey data has been collected with some preliminary study of the data.  Data suggests seedling plants do not grow close to the parent plant.  Even to ride in and among the plants interferes with the natural regeneration.  Impacts to the shrubs themselves have to be avoided as well as impacts to the areas in and among them.

  A survey was done throughout the entire area.
     78 percent of the plants surveyed are large mature shrubs
     16.5 percent are intermediate plants
     5.1 percent are young plants

More study will have to be done to discover true impacts.

  Dean went to the Imperial Sand Dunes in southern California to look at impacts.   In protected areas there were more shrubs and in unprotected areas less.  There were a few isolated surviving shrubs in unprotected areas.

  Slides of the north area show higher density of vegetation along the swales to the west.  Higher use seems to increase impacts.

  BOUNDARIES OF THE REC AREA ARE NOT MARKED according to an answer from Carson City Field Manager John Singlaub to a question from Karen Boeger at the beginning of the presentation.

  Slides showing digitized roads showed changes in road densities over time.  There was limited designation in the 1995 plan.  These slides showed how fast impacts to the vegetation can occur.

They showed that there were not as people assumed in the 1990s little activity in the north area and thus little impacts.  Every area of the shrub areas has been impacted to some extent by 2002.

On the entire planet the Sand Mountain butterfly exists only in the Sand Mountain area.  This is its only habitat.

  Presentation on Fee Demo

  Christine Miller, Carson City Field Office Recreation Planner gave a presentation on the fee demo program.

 In 1996 Congress implemented the Fee Demo Act.  In Fall 2001 the first publication went out to the newspapers on fee demo for Sand Mountain.  Flyers were handed out to everyone who came in.  Vehicles in the area were counted over Memorial Day Weekend.  In August 2002 BLM published proposed fee rules, open for 30 days of comments.  Most of the comments were to increase law enforcement, grade the roads better and put in more bathrooms. 

  In November 2002 the BLM Carson City Field Office submitted to the Bureau rules and regs for the fee demo project at Sand Mountain.  They were approved in February 2003.  On March 13 the fee program began. 

  Chris talks to people coming to the area on the weekends.  Based on this information it was decided it is cheaper to have a one-to-seven day pass, or an annual pass. 

  Sixteen thousand vehicles were polled.  Approximately 85 percent of visitors are from California.  Before Easter weekend BLM had sold 387 annual passes and 220 weekly passes.  On Easter weekend the numbers sold doubled to 630 annual passes and 1,072 weekly passes.  Forty-nine thousand dollars was collected by Easter weekend. 

Spring and fall are the busy times.

  Three law enforcement officers were added on Easter weekend, as well as additional trash collection receptacles.  Money is already being used for some of the maintenance and the law enforcement.  Volunteers from the Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe and Friends of Sand Mountain have been working at the site on the weekends.  

John Singlaub told the group that the Churchill County Commission estimates that Sand Mountain is the largest single tourist attraction in the county.

  Larie Trippet reminded the RAC that Dean’s presentation focused on proliferation in roads.  It is designated an open area and managed as a recreation area so the number of roads is legal and appropriate.

  John Singlaub added that the exception is the south area.

  Jim Eidel commented that at one inch to 40,000 resolution on the digitized map you would only see the roads.  At that resolution you are not able to see a lot of the detail that Dean was showing in his on-the-ground photographs.

  John Singlaub told the group that BLM wants to both avoid the listing of the butterfly and maintain the recreation area.

  Coments from the Public

  Tom Baker, US Forest Service asked if BLM wants to keep the majority of the funds in the area and what the future plans are for the money.  John Singlaub answered whatever BLM sees the needs to be.  Law enforcement is a large need according to the people visiting the area. 

Jon Crowley, Friends of Sand Mountain said he wanted to make sure that everyone at the meeting understands that the Sand Mountain butterfly is only known to exist at Sand Mountain.

  Joshua Macenroth, Off Road Business Association commented that Dean said there is some more research he wants to do.  He asked what the main power was to do the research he has already done.  Dean answered that his team is proposing putting together a pilot study in the west and north areas, looking at natural features that affect the buckwheat and also impacts.  Joshua asked what goes into the pilot study.  Dean told him it is designed to look at a number of things and see what needs to be sampled to learn a number of things.  It will take a minimum of three years.  BLM will learn what has to be done which will take another three years minimum.  The team has looked in other buckwheat areas to see if we saw the Kearney buckwheat.  He said they are not likely to find it more than within a 100-square- mile area.

  Rochanne Downs, Fallon Pauite-Shoshone Tribe told the group that her concerns come from the spiritual.  There are cultural sites all throughout the Great Basin, she told them.  These trails are affecting the cultural sites.  This concerns the Tribe.  We have the opportunity now to not impact the native species.  Our people have uses for the native species.  The Tribe is looking at closures for other uses of the Mountain.  Our elders can’t go there to practice their spiritual needs because of the danger. The sound drowns out the natural sounds of the singing dunes of the Mountain.

  Jim Bramham, Past President of the California Four-Wheel Drive Clubs told the group that he has been a recreator at these dunes for more than 30 years.  There is no new route proliferation in the areas that have been closed.  Primary access to Sand Mountain has changed.  Previously the primary camp area was closed.  We have always advocated a designated entrance route for vehicles using hard surface.  The other thing that happened in the Pony Express area through the 1990s is a lot of rain impact that scoured the area down to the volcanic base taking many of the small plants with it.  That has already been an area of high use for many years.  The Grimes Point issue is an area almost unattainable to vehicles with sand tires.  The more water and the more wind in the area will often obliterate the routes.  Heavy scouring causes the uplift of the Mountain.  The north route network has been in use for 30 years and he said he would admit that use has increased.  Trying to balance the use and the buckwheat is something that certainly needs to be looked at.  One of the concerns about fees is that the Bureau has not had public input on how the fee money is spent.  The issue before the BLM is to put some public input into how the fees are used.  People who pay the fees expect the services to not only be there but to increase. 

  Tina Nappe commented that only one sensitive species was discussed.

  Roy Denner, Off Road Business Association, told the group that the presenter drew a comparison with the Peirson plant listed in the Imperial Sand Dunes.  Since it was listed, many groups have spent millions.  He said he would encourage this group to do studies first before millions are put into more studies.  He also said that he saw nothing to do with rainfall stats in the inventory.

  Field Trip

  The first stop on the field trip to Sand Mountain was the fee collection pad.  Chris Miller told the group that the cost of grading, the fee pad and the sign was $5,000.  A larger sign is going to be installed.  A spot is also going to be widened for new dumpsters.  The closed area can be seen very well from this location and you can see very well who’s coming in and out. 

  Jim Bramham commented that when the plan came out the perception was to extend the line into the dunes.  The carsonite signs got knocked down.  Chris told him that BLM is thinking of using orange barrels as a moving fence.  Jim continued that knowing that youth ride in the area, he suggests an 80 cc size bike area for youth only.  It allows people to do what they want to do without impacts. 

  Chris continued that sand boarders use the dunes face.  They can be seen from the pad.

  Jim Eidel asked what kinds of injuries there are.  Chris told him that most injuries are back and neck, often alcohol related, often caused by not knowing how to use the equipment.  The injured person pays for evacuation. 

Jon Crowley told the group that Friends would like to see more vehicles BLM could use to help with health and safety.  Chris told him that she is limited in the uses of fee money, but she can use it for health and safety.  It costs $106,000 to manage Sand Mountain.  Rochanne and her boss have been at the area helping with EMT.  Chris spends most of her time on the fee pad.

  Jon commented that the perception from the web site is that services are less since fees went in. 

Chris told the group that volunteers could be used to help collect fees.  There is no fee to go to the Pony Express Station or to go in for a half hour or less. 

Jim Bramham commented that he would like to see education on taking out your own trash.  If BLM handles visitors’ trash they will have the expectation that BLM will continue to handle it. 

Chris told him that BLM has looked at a self-serve fee box or web site payment.  The Tribe may help sell passes at their store and not charge expenses to BLM.  

The color of the weekly pass changes monthly.  The weekly passes cost 69 cents a piece to print. A packet of information comes with each pass.

  Jon Crowley pointed out the sign with the rules and regs on it and suggested that it needs a new design to highlight them.

  The second stop was the main camp area where there was a presentation by Jon Crowley of Friends of Sand Mountain.  He told the group that Friends of Sand Mountain is a non-profit organization founded a couple of years ago.  Their goal is to make sure that Sand Mountain is safe, clean and open.  Two and a half years ago they hosted the first clean up of the area on Labor Day Weekend.  The group tries to educate people to different principles such as Tread Lightly.  They have a web site used to educate users with two banners that rotate through – no glass bottles and no pallets. 

  Jon suggested educational signage at the Mountain.  The group would also like to provide more manpower to BLM or look for sponsors.  They would also like additional law enforcement to enforce the rules.

  The organization is happy to see more dumpsters.  They want to make sure that BLM stays on top of the emptying schedule.

  Friends of Sand Mountain will get the word out on the new rules and regs.  The sign at the fee station is the only rules and regs in the area.  Jon suggested that BLM needs more signage where people can see it while driving and they need more input on signs. 

  Jon suggested that there should be more sensible law enforcement.  Their organization has gotten complaints on the lack of enforcement of the rules.  He told the group that a zero tolerance policy should not have to be initiated as usage increases, it should start now. 

  Chris Miller commented that some of the fee money could be put toward increasing law enforcement.   Jon told her that there has been outside comment that law enforcement at Sand Mountain didn’t have a distinct sense of purpose.

  Friends of Sand Mountain would like to see BLM focus on –

·        Speeding through camps and near pedestrians, there should be regs for this

·        Whip use flags on all vehicles

·        DUIs

·        Institute the checkered flag program which means a person with a checkered flag stands for and supports safe use

·        A cell phone provider covering the area.  (BLM agreed to approach a provider)

·        Keep Sand Mountain open 

Friends of Sand Mountain would like to see added cooperation between their group and BLM on vegetation and butterflies.  They can help collect information, observe, and get information out to the public.

  John Mudge asked if there are there any signs on habitat protection.  Jon Crowley told him there are some, but he’d like to see more.  Jim Bramham commented that enthusiasm to buy into changes is essential.

  Before closures are instituted, Friends of Sand Mountain would like to see BLM do more outreach education on the vegetation and the butterfly, come up with a program and formal plan to grow Kearney buckwheat, and avoid listing the butterfly.

  Tina Nappe suggested that BLM look at all the endangered species in the area.

  John Mudge asked if weather information is gathered in the area.  Jon Crowley told him that information is gathered at Newlands Agricultural Station.

  Dan Jacquet, Carson City Assistant Field Manager Renewable Resources asked Jon Crowley if Friends would consider embracing the whole eco-system, all the values and issues at Sand Mountain.  Jon answered that the Friends group would like to know what all the issues are.

  John Singlaub asked how many members they have.  Jon told him that it’s hard to tell.  They don’t have dues.  There were 37,000 hits on their home web page in the past year and a half.

  Karen Boeger commented that she came out to Sand Mountain a long time ago for a natural experience but hasn’t come back because of increased use.  She asked if Friends supports non-motorized use.  Jon told here that they’re not out to shut out any users.  People need to use common sense in all uses. 

Jim Bramham commented that the noise from all the vehicles has been reduced by Federal regs.

  Dan Peterson, California Off Road Vehicle Association told the group that CORVA starts groups to take care of situations happening on the ground and provide information and attorneys if needed.  They have supported Friends of Sand Mountain monetarily.

  Rochanne Downs gave a presentation for the Fallon Pauite-Shoshone Tribe.  She told the group, you are in the Home Lands of the New Moon.  Our bands are named after that we ate.  Sand Mountain is a living animal a serpent that came from Walker River.  As people get injured out in the area, Tribal people understand why.  If you play with a snake you’ll get bitten.  This is a very powerful spiritual place.  Only our spiritual people come out here. 

We like to share our culture.  It is our inherent responsibility to protect these lands.  This is our church.  We hope that people will give that same respect.  It concerns us when plants are being destroyed.  You can’t rejuvenate seed that no longer exists.  The black streaks on the Mountain are new. 

  I am not against ATV use.  My grandmother couldn’t do her ceremonies because she couldn’t hear the Mountain.  Things will only work if everyone works together.

  What is the maximum capacity of the area?  The Tribe has suggested putting pictures on the web site of what the Mountain looks like on a busy weekend.

  We will continue to protect our sovereign lands.  We work on a government-to-government basis with BLM.  The Tribe’s standpoint is lands are there for everyone for all generations.

  Jon Crowley asked if the Tribe has talked to BLM about signs to explain about the Mountain.

Robert Kautz asked what the area of effect is for the area.  Chris Miller told him that there is no formal designation at Sand Mountain.  There are 35 sites within the boundary of the area, but the Mountain itself is not designated.  There is a lot more dialogue now with NAGPRA.

  Rochanne commented that the issue has been brought up of making Sand Mountain a Traditional Cultural Property.

  Jim Bramham commented that OHV people love the culture and the history.  He said he thought it would be great if something were there to address that.  He added that the dark color of Sand Mountain (that Rochanne mentioned) is minerals.  They’re natural. 

Terry Reed told the group that an application has been put in to exclude Sand Mountain from mineral exploration.  Boundaries were formed to enclose the Mountain, the Pony Express Station and things like that.  BLM didn’t know about the buckwheat.  A special recreation management area includes several areas all managed and monitored as one. 

The third presentation was by a representative of the Nature Conservancy.  She told the group that the Nature Conservancy’s goal is to preserve the area and the bio-diversity in the Great Basin.  The Nature Conservancy surveyed about 72 million acres to find a place that would preserve this bio-diversity.  Sand dunes are very important for this preservation. 

The assessment came up with 359 sites that are very important.  Sand Mountain is one of them.  The area has vegetative active dunes as well as active dunes.

  The list of plants and animals of concern includes five butterfly and three bee species only known at Sand Mountain.  This information is always evolving.

  Sand Mountain is a biological “hot spot.”  This issue is the bio foundation for many invertebrates as well as an interesting site for a suite of small mammals and birds. 

  The Nature Conservancy conducted a site-specific conservation assessment of the dunes managed by the Carson City BLM and the Fallon Naval Air Station.  This report is in draft form originally intended to help the Department of Defense.  The group doing the assessment focused primarily on the biology of the system.  The condition of the dune at Sand Mountain is not good because of the loss of vegetative dunes.  The loss of the vegetation, and the vehicle traffic has impacted the invertebrates. 

  Three strategies came out of the assessment – increase BLM law enforcement presence, restrict vehicle traffic to unvegetative dunes, and restrict vehicle access from the Dixie Valley area.  The Sand Mountain area is unique and irreplaceable. 

Karen Boeger asked who was on the team.  The Nature Conservancy representative told her that the team consisted of academics, environmental staff from Fallon Naval Air Station and BLM people.  There is scientific data that shows that at this point there are species that are restricted to this sand dunes.  The Nature Conservancy would like to increase their knowledge of these restricted species. 

Jim Bramham told the group that he would like a list of people on the survey team.  He said that people who use the area would have been happy to be included.  The Nature Conservancy representative told him that they included people with the scientific knowledge.

  Terry Knight, Lead Outdoor Rec Planner, Carson City Field Office, told the group that open designation is for unvegetative dunes.

  Terry Reed commented that this group has a special opportunity.  This is a manageable area.  They should be careful to not digress into names of committees etc.  They should come together to look forward. 

Jon Crowley asked if vegetative and nonvegetative could be better defined.  The Nature Conservancy representative defined it as the active versus the stabilized dune. 

  Don Peterson commented we’ve only heard about the increase in visitation here.  My concern, given the increase in ATVs, is where are these people going to go to ride if the areas where they can (ride) keep getting smaller and smaller?  They’re going to be in your backyards if you shrink the places they can go.  Have a backup plan.

  RAC Comments After Reconvening at the Convention Center

  Larie Trippet asked John Singlaub to be specific about his needs from the RAC.  John told the group that he would hope that the RAC would draft a statement.  He said that what he’s looking for is some short term and long-term advice.  He said he thinks it’s important to keep Sand Mountain open and take into consideration the Tribe’s concerns and concerns of others who weren’t on the field trip.

  Jim Eidel commented that he would like to make a sideboard that the RAC and BLM think far enough ahead.  The gentleman from CORVA told the group about the increase in ATV sales in California.  Jim said he would like to think 10, 50, 100 years ahead. 

  John Mudge commented that however this is tackled it should be a multi-stakeholder approach.

  Karen Boeger commented that she participated in a team that was very successful.  She thinks it was because everyone on the team had a stake in the outcome.  She suggests a similar process with this issue.  The slides show a change over a very brief period of time.  It seems like there might have to be some emergency closure as a temporary measure until the team can assess all the information.  She said that she has fears for the time between when the team starts to look at it and a solution is worked out. 

Robert Kautz asked if a new Plan would be needed.  John Singlaub told him that they have a plan now, but it would need amendments.  BLM is working with Churchill County on a joint plan.  Churchill County is expressing a lot of interest in expanding a destination OHV area.  A lot is going to rely on the help of the people out there like Friends of Sand Mountain.

  Don Klusman representing the California Four-Wheel Drive Association told the group that they have a lot of issues on the table.  Many of them are very valid.  There are motorized as well as non-motorized rec users out there.  He suggested that a RAC subgroup be formed to deal with all these issues made up of local people, science people, local business people, motorized and non motorized users, people from the community who are affected.  He said he doesn’t think emergency closures are the answer.  He said that until the facts are out there just looking at aerial photography is enough.  A lot of ground truthing has to be done.  There might be a combination of open and not open needed.  These are some of the issues that a subgroup could look at.

  Jim Bramham said that he has done a lot of work with these types of maps.  He agreed with Don Klusman that there will be a lot of routes that are out there that don’t show up on the maps and a lot of routes that do that aren’t there any more.  He said that emergency closure seems to be a really draconian step.  A lot of users out there don’t know to stay on designated routes.  There is nothing out there to tell them that.  Just because routes are there is not any indication of use.  Identifying that into some type of map structure may be helpful. 

  Jim Eidel told the group that the comment was made that millions of dollars have been spent on sand without getting the results we want.  He said that any attempt to ground truth the area would be a waste of time and money.  The photographs represent 24 years of work in the most transient area there is.  The impact of the old roads is still there even if they are buried.  What is important, he told the group, is that there is an increase in the use and an increase in the impacts.  The trends are what need to be seen.  He said he thinks they point toward an increase in use.

  Joshua Macenroth, Off Road Business Association commented that emergency closure needs a significant risk.  At this time there isn’t a significant emergency.  There isn’t enough scientific information yet.  There isn’t enough scientific information to show that OHVs even have a significant impact on the butterflies.  Completion of the Nature Conservancy report is needed and Dean’s pilot study.  He said he doesn’t think we’re ready to make the closure decision yet. 

  Tina Nappe told the group that the RAC didn’t have a quorum to take that kind of preemptive action that day. And, she continued, the RAC is only an advisory group.

  Karen Boeger said that she thought emergency closure could be done if any resource damage was being done.

  Terry Reed told the RAC that just the previous day they passed OHV guidelines that outline several guidelines for managing OHV use.  All of these are the kinds of issues being struggled with.  In essence these are the kinds of things that John is asking the RAC to do and they did it the previous day.  He said that he thought they could work toward these things in the interim. 

Tina Nappe told the RAC that Sand Mountain is a signature place.  Unfortunately it can stand a lot of use without that damage.  It can be a destination area.  It also has many endemic species. She said she hoped that the board would never be an encouragement to do away with endemic species.  They have informally talked about setting up a TRT.  She suggested that they do that as a group with the first task that they look at immediate impact.  She said she thought they could do that with only the members present.  She told them that this is the first fee demo area in the Carson City/Winnemucca Districts so they can really look at what the needs are.  In Washington there was talk of making the fee areas permanent.  Earlier Larie (Trippet) had agreed to be the RAC’s rep on a TRT.  Certainly more people are needed from the group present at the meeting.

  Larie Trippet said that Mark Struble told him that TRT is not the correct term.  It needs to be a subgroup.

  Terry Reed told the RAC that they could recommend setting up such a group and talk about members at a later time.

  Tina Nappe asked it the RAC would support setting up a subgroup with some of them and people from other groups.  John Singlaub told them that it has to be one member from the RAC and then recommendations have to come back to the RAC.

  Tina said that she felt they had an opportunity to work together and a little time.

  The representative from the Nature Conservancy said that there is a real need for more and better information on the biology.  There is a BLM group gathering that information but the activities at the monitoring areas is destroying them (the biology).

  Dean told the group he was supportive of an emergency closure in the de-vegetated areas.  It would protect the areas being studied.  A lot of impact can happen in a short time.

  Terry Reed commented that this should be left to the subgroup. 

  Larie Trippet commented that if that is a proposal to the RAC subgroup for emergency closure he would recommend alternative places of similar quality from Dean and Jan where people can recreate.

  Jim Eidel said that in his mind that solution would work for a year or two only.  He said it has been shown to that this is a unique biological system.

  Larie Trippet said his long-term point of view is that the amount of wilderness and protected areas has grown and grown and grown and the areas of quality OHV rec have shrunk and shrunk and shrunk.

  Jim Eidel asked what the solution is if there are more and more vehicles and less and less areas for them to go.

  John Mudge said that he didn’t have much sense for how much vegetation has been destroyed. John Singlaub told him that the progressive pictures through time show it.

  Jon Crowley commented that the Dixie Valley area is not a high use area.

  Tina Nappe said that what I she was hearing was that the damage done is already impacting the vegetation.

  Karen Boeger said that she didn’t see that this is an emergency thing where some other option needs to be provided.  She said that they’re talking about a relatively small area.

  Larie Trippet told the group that the fear of the OHV people is that you take ten percent this year and ten percent next year and ten percent the next year. 

Tina Nappe told the group that one issue is that not one species be listed. The other issue is can the management needs be met with the current fee structure.  If the subgroup could be formally established by the end of June and meet by the end of July…  She asked if they could talk about the broad OHV use in other areas in another forum since there is specific need at Sand Mountain.

  Jim Eidel commented that they hadn’t discussed the cultural issue that Rochanne discussed.  He said he looked at the education guidelines that the RAC approved as promoting and expanding the guidelines of Tread Lightly and Leave No Trace.  What he saw in Dean’s photographs and what he saw on the ground today was the antithesis of Tread Lightly.  There is a lot of improvement the RAC can do on the issue at Sand Mountain.  Rochanne made some very germane remarks.  One of the comments she made privately is to accommodate other users culturally by closing the area for a month to foot traffic, allowing the people to accommodate their cultural needs and another month to allow the area to heal.  The butterfly pupates late in the summer, the most sensitive invertebrate uses are in August and it’s “hot as hell” in August.  He suggested that maybe the subgroup could look at closure in August and maybe it could heal in the winter.  The idea of closing it for a month to allow the invertebrates to use it would be easy to communicate to the public.  He said that BLM has to look at multiple use and he would like the RAC to look at multiple use. 

A member of the BLM Carson City Field Office staff commented that other species are active at other times of the year.

  Don Klusman commented that they could talk about anything in any area that is endangered.  The thing has to be managed is the multiple use of the land and the preservation of the species. That is what BLM is charged with, but recreation is also one of their charges.  Whatever is found it seems that OHVers are the culprits.  More is needed to be known about the cultural.

  Rochanne commented that the group has to realize that the area is her homeland.  She said that she doesn’t know why a temporary closure to study the beetle or the vegetation is such a big deal.  The Mountain is so vast.  She said that something needs to be done.  A lot of people who use the area aren’t from here but she is.  The Tribe’s charge is to preserve the Mountain forever.

  Tina Nappe told the RAC that they need to have ideas for the subgroup to address and a forum for the ideas to be presented.

  John Singlaub told the group that he would like people who have an interest on serving on the subgroup who there to let BLM know before they leave.  He said he would be putting his associate field manager Elayn Briggs in charge of the effort, to please email suggestions to her at ebriggs@nv.blm.gov.

  Dan Jacquet told the group that the good science is an absolute.  Speaking for their biologist from BLM they need to move forward with their monitoring today.  They need to find a way today to prevent the areas they are monitoring from being destroyed.  He said he wants to have the biologists out there this season. 

Dean commented that the study areas are at the top of the large ridge to the west and the swales to the east.  He said he’s talking about closing a large area to allow for the study.

Dan Jacquet said that minimally small areas would have to be closed next to all of the study areas.

  Jon Crowley commented that they are talking about two different things.

  Dan Jacquet said that yes, they were.

  Don Klusman said that what Dan was proposing was putting BLM in a huge dilemma.  BLM just imposed a fee out there and now they’re proposing closing the area.  Users are going to say that BLM is taking the money to close the area.

  Terry Reed suggested that the RAC support the Bureau and some of the users developing an approach to close and study the area with as few changes as possible and charge a group with coming up with these areas.

  Don Klusman told BLM that they were going to close a thousand acres and try to mark it and then the OHVers are going to be blamed for encroaching.

  Jim Eidel asked what total area they were talking about.

  Dean said he thought the meeting was premature because they are still doing their studies.

  Jim Eidel asked how many acres there are there in total.  Dean told him 4,000.

  Tina Nappe asked when BLM would need the closure.  Dean told here that the area needs to be closed the end of July.  Tina told him that he’s not giving the RAC time to even get the subgroup together.  They would need to set up the subgroup sooner than late June.  They would need ideas now.  Larie (Trippet) will be part of the subgroup.  It would have to meet in the next three weeks.

  Don Klusman commented that BLM would have to provide time for notification. Terry Reed told him that if it’s needed the closure can be imposed overnight.  Don asked, but are you going to get compliance?  He said that the butterfly is not a near issue.  He heard about it in 1995. Now it has to be done right now.

  John Singlaub told him that the conclusion in ‘95 was that if the use on the south side remained the same the impacts in other areas would remain the same.  He said he now recognizes that there is a need to take action now.  What everyone needs to do is keep each other informed, get the subgroup going, get some participants today. And try to figure out what the best compromise is today.

  The members of the RAC present came to consensus to set up a subgroup.

  Terry Reed commented that there are obviously some people missing who would like to participate. 

  Jon Crowley said he would like to better understand what the numbers of the subgroup would be.  Also to better understand what the level of participation would be.

  Tina Nappe said that the issue has to be addressed in the next couple of months.  Part of it has to be what kind of education BLM is willing to do to accomplish a closure.  After that the meeting dates could be less intensive.  The group will also look at the use of fee demo funds. 

Jon Crowley told BLM that they have an opportunity now, in about three weeks is the busiest weekend of the year, to educate the users as much as possible.  Friends could help to hand out information, to revise the information. 

Terry Reed commented that focusing on just damage to vegetation would be valuable.

  Jon Crowley commented that a temporary sign is a possibility to get the information out there.

John Singlaub told him that the Friends of Sand Mountain logo on it would be more effective than the BLM logo.

Dan Jacquet commented that BLM has heard the recommendation that they need to protect the existing vegetation.  If that is an objective, he said, and there is enough information to make that decision, let’s make it today.

  Tina Nappe commented that healthy rangeland rules and regs should protect that area too.

  Dan told the group that BLM needs to provide the committee with real sideboards. 

  Karen Boeger commented that she thought what Jon said about doing something for Memorial Day Weekend was really critical.  She suggested that some sort of flyer needs to be out there.  Everyone needs to get one.  Some type of decision needs to be made by that time.

  Jim Eidel commented that John asked if the RAC felt it was healthy to address this under no net loss.  Most definitely no net loss applies in this area.  He told the group that he is concerned where Dean is going from here in respect to his study.  To be good science it has to be statistically valid.  Enough sites have to be included so that if you lose some the stats will still be statistically valid.  He said if he were BLM he would look at what this pilot study might include and expand it in whatever ways were necessary to get as much for their dollar as possible.  He said he would put a bird study traverse in the study area.  The cost would be minimal and it would take one person knowledgeable on the birds and the birdcalls.  He said he would also investigate the impact to mammals in the area.

  Robert Kautz asked why it is a pilot study.  Dean told him because before BLM commits a lot of dollars they have to make sure they’re picking up enough information to make the study worthwhile or if they need more study.  It’s a trial run without committing a lot of resources.

  Tina Nappe told the group that if anyone wants to be on the subgroup to let John or Elayn Briggs know because Dean needs to decide what the acreage is that is needed and what some of the options are.  She asked if the group needs to meet in the next three weeks.

  Larie Trippet commented that he thought the handout at the site was enough.  He said he didn’t think the subgroup needed to meet in the next three weeks.

Tina Nappe said that she thought she needed to be part of the subgroup.

  John Mudge commented that there is a social aspect and asked if there is a study of what Sand Mountain brings to society.  He said his feeling is that it is good for people to get out there and recreate. 

Tina asked if the people who go out there could be offered more than what they came out for.

  Elayn Briggs was tasked with contacting people who were not at the meeting.  Jon Crowley will be the main conduit for getting this information out to the users.

  Tina thanked everyone for being at the meeting and John Singlaub for pulling all of it together.

Meeting Adjourned at 3:53 PM

Please contact the Nevada RAC Coordinator for further information.


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