Web-comments-501-600

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WC-501 WID-753 None Interactive Map 11/28/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_1_other: Adjacent Landowner|cb_timber|tb_gen_ans:
WC-502 WID-752 None Interactive Map 11/28/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_fulltime|tb_gen_ans:
WC-503 WID-749 W-3714c5c5-594e-49c7-bb52-080e114e2075 Draft EIS 11/28/2007 9:45:00 AM As a Corvallis area resident, I urge the BLM to take "no action" in this area. The choice to take action would end precious old growth trees and ecosystems that should not be clear cut. Alternative 2 would cause a 700% increase in the clear-curring of these ancienct forests, and Alternative 1 will also impact these essential old growth trees. I believe that old growth forests should not be cut down, and that the current plan should be continued. Please use the option to take "no action" on these forests. Thank you.
WC-504 WID-751 W-6b714726-1961-41f1-a19c-ed5587a8a392 Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:17:00 PM Alternative 2 Riparian management: Riparian watersheds should be treated as ecological reserves and no timber cutting should occur. Timber management areas: These should be converted to ecological reserves. The federal government needs to get out of the timber business, which by the way right now is not producing sales that are that profitable, and get into the business of preserving our forests for all people and future generations. Ecological reserves that allow limited hunting and abundant wildlife and nature viewing have been shown to not only be environmentally sound but also profitable.
WC-505 WID-751 W-094e953f-ec3a-4924-82c9-017d0f98c94a Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:21:00 PM Marbled Murrelet: Acres under the No Action Alternative or an increase in acreage is environmentally advisable to preserve the species and to encourage establishment of ecological preserves.
WC-506 WID-753 None Web Forum Exit 11/28/2007 12:22:00 PM Pretty neat tool for providing comments.
WC-507 WID-751 W-750b45cb-c100-4b63-bfb8-a18f31f29d4f Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:28:00 PM Spotted OWl: The purpose should be to increase the quantity and quality of usable owl habitat and the No Harvest Alternative best accomplishes that.
WC-508 WID-751 W-c876fd08-7299-4a39-a6c7-50516922ea87 Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:31:00 PM Stream flow and fish habitat quality are affected by any cut within a watershed, no matter how regulated. Significant care should be given to protect all fish bearing waterways.
WC-509 WID-751 W-d261ee5d-2084-43d7-8166-7bb0ab761625 Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:36:00 PM I have considerable doubt that the negligible effects of road building on water quality claimed in your report are accurate. Distance from streams would be difficult if not impossible to maintain and the heavy truck use of roadways after a cut would contribute to fine sediment accumulation.
WC-510 WID-751 W-438ae92d-10c3-4c05-9f8f-a22143596482 Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:43:00 PM The No Action or Alt 2 best increase fire resiliency. Giving off-highway vehicles an expanded area to use that would be well regulated and supervised would reduce forest abuse and fire danger. Coupled with that should be strict enforcement of fines for use of off-highway vehicles where they should not be.
WC-511 WID-751 W-70da9424-3845-4011-a455-ecd11e8f34ae Draft EIS 11/28/2007 12:45:00 PM Alt 1-3: Reducing livestock available acreage will help soil and stream quality.
WC-512 WID-757 None Interactive Map 11/29/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Forests: It is not reasonble to distrube eco system with 150 year old trees and call that a good management plan
WC-513 WID-757 None Interactive Map 11/29/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Forests: It is not reasonble to distrube eco system with 150 year old trees and call that a good management plan
WC-514 WID-757 None Interactive Map 11/29/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Water Quality: only the matue healthy forest protects the water, you cant value clean water by short term economic values
WC-515 WID-756 W-c617ebe4-095a-4bda-bd08-ef9d6ca10f29 Draft EIS 11/29/2007 8:18:00 AM I support the majority of BLM lands being managed for timber, with the following restrictions/comments: 1. True old-growth (scientifically defined, not just what uninformed individuals might wrongly consider old-growth) should not be harvested. My guess is that old-growth will be stands at least 200 years old. The industry is no longer well suited to use them, and they have too much value for other purposes. 2. Maintenance of some proportion of timber for late-successional reserves and late-succession management areas. The areas set aside in Alternative 1 and 2 seem adequate. 3. Growing timber on a 240 and 360 rotation (as in alternative 3) seems quite unrealistic. The trees will generally be too large for optimal use, and environmental groups will block harvest of any such trees. 4. It is important that BLM meets the obligations of the O&C Act and provide revenue to counties in Oregon. The timberlands should be managed accordingly.
WC-516 WID-166 W-1bbc7a17-8af1-4942-937f-92eff7163645 Draft EIS 11/29/2007 10:07:00 PM Reference: "Process for on-going public collaboration/outreach: The principle venue for public collaboration within these emphasis areas is through local partnership relationships with local motorcycle and 4X4 associations." Why is the BLM excluding adjacent land owners, impacted land owners, and county and other government entities? These excluded stakeholders will be impacted by decisions and actions taken to develop and maintain an "OHV Emphasis Area". These stakeholders will be impacted by noise, trespass, water run-off, vehiclular traffic accessing the area, increased fire danger, and any number of additional impacts. These stakeholders must be party to decisions and actions taken by the BLM.
WC-517 WID-166 W-5f5d0ad2-2808-4eb6-8339-f013d3985292 Draft EIS 11/29/2007 10:44:00 PM Reference: "Alternative 2 would result in a loss of nonmotorized recreation opportunities in the Medford District due to the larger portion of land that would be designated specifically for motorized recreation use (12% of the districts total land base). Since off-highway vehicle emphasis areas are specially managed to accommodate motorized recreational activities, visitors seeking nonmotorized forms of recreation would be dissuaded from using these areas. If they did engage in nonmotorized activities within these emphasis areas, the quality of their experiences would be diminished as a result of the limited compatibility of their activity with off-highway vehicle riders. In general, however, off-highway vehicle emphasis areas help segregate these user groups, resulting in an overall improvement in the quality of experiences for all visitors." Why is the BLM using such euphemistic language? "Dissuaded" ??? "visitors seeking nonmotorized forms of recreation would be dissuaded from using these areas"??? If a person wants to walk in an area, his experience would be "improved" by being excluded from the area??? How many days did some BLM employee work to create such mealy-mouthed words? If you check Webster for "mealy-mouthed", you will see it defined as insincere. If the area is set aside for OHV use only, SAY SO! Call a spade a spade. Who are you trying to deceive? Then, consider "regeneration harvest"... What other deceptions is the BLM devising? If the BLM is serious about building trust and credibility, euphemisms are not appropriate.
WC-518 WID-655 W-38b78245-fa30-44e7-99b7-55af7cd66289 Draft EIS 11/29/2007 11:08:00 PM Hello there, My name is Daniel Conley and I am a resident of Klamath Falls and I believe I speak for myself, as well my fellow OHV riders here in the Klamath Falls managment area. Cheifly, my/our concern is with the new management plan is that there are no provisions for any desiganted OHV areas here on this side of the Cascades, the Klamath management area. I applaud the efforts of the individuals involved, and the BLM for designating additional OHV areas in the Medford area, and as a result I am in favor of Alterantive 2, however there is nowhere here in Klamath to ride our OHVs in any form of desiganted area or trail system. In fact the closest area for any desiganted trail systems are easily over 1 hours drive away, in Medford, Bend, Prospect, or Christmans valley. Areas like Chiloquin, Topsey, Pelican butte and other surrounding areas here in Klamath are what would appear to be some potentially prime areas for desiganted trail systems. I am very hopeful that the BLM will make every effort to look at the surronding areas and consider this popular form of recreation and incorparate it into its management plan with the land available in the Klamath management area. Nationally, the number of OHVs sold in the U.S. has grown exponentially in recent years, yet the number of OHV areas has been reduced substatially. Naturally this increases the amount of load on the land, traffic on the trials and potential safety issues for the riders. There are a great number of OHV enthusiasts here in Klamath area and I hope you will consider thier voices in the managment plan as you so graciously have with enthusiasts in the Medford area. Thank you, Daniel Conley (541)273-6384
WC-519 WID-766 W-e666b085-6905-4122-bd3d-eb06fcb8a1dc Draft EIS 12/1/2007 9:18:00 AM I absolutely disagree that the BLM is pushing primarily options that are clear cutting (renamed to be more confusing and obfuscating to the average person) or very similar to clear cutting when the civil lawsuit findings and conclusions do not require this at all. There is no reason why the previous Pacific Northwest Forest Plans requirements to fully protect wildlife, endangered species, old growth forests, fish, riparian zones, etc., cannot be continued. Our state must move from timber as a job source, and to renewable industries that will last. I believe the forests have been mismanaged for the last century which is why restrictions were put forth in the Forest Plan. Now you are considering 'same old, same old' use plans, how can this repetition have a different outcome? If the forests have been managed so properly for the last 100 years then why is there so little old growth left? Why is most of the remaining forest a mono culture of Doug Fir? How can a mono culture of Doug Fir support diverse wildlife and all the uses that a forest needs to fulfill? Why has our snow pack receded so much in the last 60 years (our drinking water source)? Stop the increased logging. The forests need to remain intact for the same reasons everyone else is saying: clean water, prevention of erosion, carbon dioxide sequestration, wildlife and salmon protection. Why: because its TRUE. As a taxpayer and a voting citizen, I want 1. absolutely no logging in any remaining old growth forests, regardless of size. 2. no new logging roads. 3. riparian zones kept at least 300 feet wide. 4. no increased logging on public lands. 5. public lands kept pristine and wild. Why? So the water in our state is clean, wildlife stays at healthy populations, salmon and other fish have opportunity to rebound in numbers. Please review the recent findings released by Fisheries that shows hatchery raised salmon do not reproduce well in the wild. We need every wild salmon to spawn where it grew up or we'll never have healthy salmon populations again. It is time for Oregon BLM to think differently. Our forests cannot sustain us unless we leave what remains alone. As a state we must look to other sources than wood for building materials, fuel and energy. BLM must consider the drastic climate change that is now happening and will accelerate precipitously in the few decades. BLM should be doing everything it can to manage its lands according to how it can best offset the coming climate catastrophe, massive water shortages, and the end of fossil fuel use. Have the timber industry take a back seat and begin to find other ways to support themselves. Just because clear cutting and a powerful timber industry lobby has always been 'the way it was done out here in the west' that is not a valid argument for keeping it that way. Again, stop the increased logging and prevent any additional access to these forest lands.
WC-520 WID-775 None Interactive Map 12/2/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_gen_ans: Please open this for OHV use. The Salem area is lacking in regard to places for OHV use.
WC-521 WID-775 None Interactive Map 12/2/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_ohv|tb_gen_ans: Please open this for OHV use. The Salem area is lacking in regard to places for OHV use.
WC-522 WID-775 None Interactive Map 12/2/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_ohv|tb_gen_ans: Please consider opening some of this area for OHV use. There are trails for horses and mountain bikes further west near Silver Creek Falls, but nothing for motorcycles and ATV's users who live in the area. It would be nice to have a place to ride locally.
WC-523 WID-771 W-91e9a8fe-b7f2-41ec-b716-c21625b305e5 File Upload 12/2/2007 11:02:00 AM

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WC-524 WID-771 None Web Forum Exit 12/2/2007 11:06:00 AM Helpful tool for the computer savvy.
WC-525 WID-777 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_ranching|cb_photo|tb_2_other: Horseback riding|cb_hiking|cb_fulltime|cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|tb_gen_ans: We moved out to the Obenchain area 20 plus years ago, built our home from scratch on acreage next to BLM for the quietness, lack of people, and daily urban noise. We raised two children here, raise and ride horses, enjoy the wildlife just outside our front door. We have also seen what some of the recreationl type people have done to our neighborhood. Please reconsider before opening this area up.
WC-526 WID-777 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Off-Highway Vehicles: We moved out to the Obenchain area 20 plus years ago, built our home from scratch on acreage next to BLM for the quietness, lack of people, and daily urban noise. We raised two children here, raise and ride horses, enjoy the wildlife just outside our front door. We have also seen what some of the recreationl type people have done to our neighborhood. Dumping of illegal trash, crushing the delicate soil and plant life, noise polution, and human waste trash to name a few. We moved here to enjoy what was here before us%3A quiet and beauty.
WC-527 WID-776 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_gen_ans:
WC-528 WID-776 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from undefined: This is where I have played for 38 years and continue to do so.
WC-529 WID-776 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_gen_ans: And here
WC-530 WID-776 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_gen_ans: Here Too%21%21
WC-531 WID-776 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_gen_ans: Dirt bike here
WC-532 WID-776 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_gen_ans: great place too go
WC-533 WID-783 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_tourism|cb_photo|cb_hiking|cb_camping|cb_birdwatching|cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|cb_onceamonth|tb_gen_ans:
WC-534 WID-783 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_tourism|cb_photo|cb_hiking|cb_camping|cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|tb_gen_ans:
WC-535 WID-783 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_tourism|cb_photo|cb_hiking|cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|cb_onceamonth|tb_gen_ans:
WC-536 WID-783 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_fulltime|cb_scenicbeauty|tb_gen_ans:
WC-537 WID-783 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_photo|cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|tb_gen_ans:
WC-538 WID-790 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_hunting|cb_dirtbiking|cb_ohv|tb_gen_ans:
WC-539 WID-791 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Water Quality: I am very concerned about the effects of increased logging, as would occur if the second alternative is put into effect, on water quality and salmon habitat.
WC-540 WID-791 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Off-Highway Vehicles: Off-Highway Vehicles (OHVs) are incredibly destructive to plant life and mycorrhizal fungi. OHVs cause erosion, dust, noise and water pollution, increased CO2 in the atmosphere, and increased garbage on BLM land. This is completely unacceptable for these and many other reasons.
WC-541 WID-791 None Interactive Map 12/3/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 2: This alternative has the highest risk of wildfires and would end up costing the taxpayers the most over the long term. It is irresponsible to have the majority of these lands designated to timber mamagement areas- monoculture tree farms which are prone to devastating fires as well as disease. Late successional areas need to be completely protected from logging as there are already so few remaining.
WC-542 WID-778 W-07946d29-ca6a-4ea5-834c-5990b2a183d5 File Upload 12/3/2007 9:16:00 AM Citizen concerns over new proposals, along with a criticism of the "comparison" graphs.

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WC-543 WID-793 None Interactive Map 12/4/2007 12:00:00 AM tb_1_other: mine|tb_gen_ans:
WC-544 WID-795 None Interactive Map 12/4/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_hiking|cb_fulltime|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|tb_4_other: Foots Creek is a critical Steelhead spawning stream|cb_daily|tb_gen_ans: I am opposed to having the areas adjacent to where I live managed for off road vehicle use. This area is an extreme fire risk area as determined by ODF.%0DAlso Johns Peak%2FTimber Mt. is surrounded on all sides by residential communities. The area is home endangered plants and spawning area for endangered Salmon and Steelhead.%0DThe road infrastructure doesn't support more than local traffic.%0DBLM doesn't adequately manage the area now.
WC-545 WID-794 W-214e6eea-ecfb-4155-89f1-a4d81fbd78aa Draft EIS 12/4/2007 8:17:00 AM We want you to know that your plan is totally inappropriate for this area. There are so many errors in your plan that it needs to be totally revised. First you need to put all your exixting plans on the back-burner. Then you need to create a panel from local residents that will help create a plan that is considerate to those of us who live here and for our very precious envirment. Most specifically we object to: The idea that global warming is "specilative"---for your plan to even suggest that shows how ignorant your plan is. Global warming is a scientific fact. We cannot have Off raod vehicles all over our national forest without a policing force---and we see you have made no plan for that----think of the fires they will start, the rural land they will errode, not to mention the noise they will create. We ride our trail on horseback all the time---we do not need any motorcycles, etc jamming around our property. We butt right up to BLM---and often people tresspass---what are you going to do about that???? We have plenty of timber lots that can be farmed by BLM, we don't need to clear cut anything around here---it is wasteful and thoughtless----you need to rethink your entire plan. If you think for one minute us ranchers are goping to put up with the implmenting of this plan that endangers us---fire hazzards, clear cutting, erosion----you are WRONG. We will fight you at every area, in our own way---and you will not like the way we do it. if you think we are not experienced in this, think again. Ditch this plan and start over---your plan is just horrible.
WC-546 WID-796 W-e9af3de8-7239-4beb-b39e-b175475d24cf File Upload 12/4/2007 9:51:00 AM

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WC-547 WID-798 W-056ea6c9-294a-45a5-91fa-bddbff455e32 Draft EIS 12/4/2007 11:17:00 AM I strongly support continued management of Oregon's forests under the Northwest Forest plan strategy, and I oppose BLM's preferred alternative. Instead, Alternative #2's reliance on accelerated timber harvests in OUR public forests and resource lands would only further fragment and degrade the ecological viability of our few remaining, intact old growth forests. At the same time, the ill-advised actions proposed by the BLM would proffer only a quick infusion of dollars for rural and urban governments, rather than a meaningful solution to the long-term ecological and socioeconomic sustainability of our communities - both human and biotic - in the Pacific Northwest. It is critical that we find ways to financially support local residents as the region transitions from resource extraction to other businesses. Yet, we must also ensure that our natural heritage remains fully protected for benefits that are both tangible and economically quantifiable (flood protection, cleaner air and drinking water), and less appreciated or defined, though equally relevant (aesthetic beauty, "sense of place"). For this reason, it is imperative that we strengthen preservation of our old growth forests, rather than log them for short-term economic benefits. I encourage BLM to reconsider its preferred choice and ban further logging, mining, and other extractive uses in Western Oregon forests.
WC-548 WID-802 W-c6cdd5a2-54f3-40dd-8e16-3043f4661548 File Upload 12/4/2007 3:05:00 PM I am writing to express my concern and opposition to the Western Oregon Plan Revisions as proposed by your agency. The revisions will come at the expense of clean air and drinking water, carbon storage to combat climate change, endangered species (including the old growth ecosystem itself!), recreation, and a priceless inheritance for future generations.

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WC-549 WID-804 W-219ae403-f851-45c7-ae01-9571094eaef3 Draft EIS 12/4/2007 6:11:00 PM Energy and Minerals (Areas of Critical ---). The near future may see great value in brush/down wood/etc for alternative fuel. With an availability of pelletizing plants or ethol alcohol converting plants, the BLM lands may provide raw products necessary for such energy production.
WC-550 WID-804 W-aff1dedb-5dfe-4dbb-bdb0-0916a563be34 Draft EIS 12/4/2007 6:44:00 PM Recreation - under "what are the environmental consequences of the alterantives? Off-highway vehicle designations are said to be the same under the three alternatives. How does BLM determine "quality of visitor experience"? A hiker's, fisherman's, or non-road hunter's quality of experience is greatly decreased by the noise, dust, and accessibility provided by off-road vehicles. The relatively small group of avid off-roaders have a loud voice, as do the off-road lobbyists. A decrease in public areas of off-road use will also greatly decrease erosion and stream quality.
WC-551 WID-805 W-47710fd9-256f-4ad3-9f95-a2183c1bc29a Draft EIS 12/4/2007 10:23:00 PM I strongly support the No Action Alternative. The No Action Alternative is the only alternative that adequately addresses habitat protection. It is the only alternative that will adequately address the needs of endangered and threatened species in western Oregon's forests. It is the only alternative that will adequately protect the remnants of late successional forest left in western Oregon. It is the only alternative that is sustainable. Thank you.
WC-552 WID-806 W-896bfd19-0ab8-414b-af37-99b1bd3ca0a6 Draft EIS 12/4/2007 11:23:00 PM We have come too far to regress to inappropriate conversion of western forests to publicly funded tree farms. That was tried in the early to middle 20th Century with bad results by late century for communities dependent on logging for livelihoods, the degraded waterways, and the overly roaded and nearly monoculture tree stands that replaced our original diversity. Selective logging of younger trees near population centers makes sense for fire management and watershed health. Logging remote forests makes no sense at all, let alone the diminishing old growth. Why diminish it more? The ORV provisions of WOPR are uncalled for by all but a small population that seems not to understand that their petroleum consuming recreational vehicles damage the landscape and destroy it for the rest of us. They are free to buy land and create places to use their noisy messy vehicles. The Northwest Forest Plan had widespread grassroots support. Yes, I live in town, but I come from the Adirondack foothills and know what it is like to grow up near wilderness. I want future generations to enjoy walks in the woods as I did with my parents while growing up. I marvel still at the beauty of the wilderness areas of Southern Oregon and can only imagine what they were alike when the forests went on for miles at a time. The only conscionable alternative for WOPR is the no action, meaning no change, alternative. Leave well enough alone.
WC-553 WID-813 None Interactive Map 12/5/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_1-4timesyear|tb_gen_ans: Wild Animal Park
WC-554 WID-535 None Interactive Map 12/5/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from No Action: This is the best alternative. All Late successional reserves need to be saved from logging
WC-555 WID-812 W-204d4289-63bb-4603-8c7a-5f9ddffd252d Draft EIS 12/5/2007 2:23:00 PM We are in favor of Alternative 2, as it provides for the most sensible and scientifically precise balance between the environment and the communities.
WC-556 WID-380 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_hunting|cb_dirtbiking|cb_mtnbiking|cb_hiking|cb_camping|cb_ohv|tb_gen_ans:
WC-557 WID-380 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_hunting|cb_dirtbiking|cb_ohv|tb_gen_ans:
WC-558 WID-380 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from undefined: I've been enjoying this area for over 35 years. It's been a great place to go to get some relaxation.
WC-559 WID-826 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_tourism|cb_dirtbiking|cb_1-4timesyear|tb_gen_ans: I ride here on average of 4 times a year. It is a shame to see the area shrinking due to people creating housing developments and complaining of ATV's destroying the land.
WC-560 WID-380 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from undefined: We also fly radio controled gliders up in this area in the winterwhen the winds are from the south.
WC-561 WID-823 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_parttime|tb_gen_ans:
WC-562 WID-380 None Interactive Map 12/6/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_hunting|cb_dirtbiking|cb_mtnbiking|cb_ohv|tb_gen_ans:
WC-563 WID-820 W-1bf843d5-ce3e-43ea-b554-1df7e1f32f59 Draft EIS 12/6/2007 11:37:00 AM In a message dated 12/5/2007 10:43:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, redbells@att.net writes: Dear Mr. Whittington, As I will be unable to attend the meeting tonight, I would none the less like to share my view on OHV's in the wild. Nothing is more bucolic that being in the middle of a large piece of rural property and hearing the whining drone of OHV's running rampant nearby. It's like having a chainsaw in your ear. When was it written that some kind of recreation invention gives you the right to harrass the wildlife, polute the air, compromise the silence, cross my property, breakdown my fences, remove my "NO TRESSPASSING" signs, crash my gates, litter the roads, ruin the roads, create severe erosion. I don't do this to your home in town, or anywhere else. These OHV owners have to be held responsible. And the youngsters are so dangerous. They can barely reach the handle bars and they are on the county roads!! The last OHV'er group that came through the barbwire fence next to the gate, had one member who carried a long barrell .38 or .45 pistol on his shoulder, and said we should mend the hole in the fence next to the No Tresspassing sign when I asked him how he got past the locked gate. I asked him just how to communicate "stay out" with him since all this did no good. His wife finally got it, and he left, begrudgingly. Should I carry "heat" to defend myself? What will happen with someone creates a new robot, will they have access everywhere just because a person can buy one? An industry has been let run loose, with out any oversight as to where it will be permitted to operate safely, and sanely. with a zero footprint as to it's presence. They are noise poluting cancer, and the only cure is to silence them, keep them away, far away from wild life, and human life. How about an OHV track parallel to the freeway. They have noise walls in many areas and the OHV'ers can ride next to them and hear themselves. Sincerely, Elizabeth Adamson
WC-564 WID-820 W-e8f47568-3e43-4b32-94bd-161260daabad File Upload 12/6/2007 11:46:00 AM

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WC-565 WID-405 W-bd956518-9d72-41b7-992b-329bdf92a51f File Upload 12/6/2007 1:33:00 PM

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WC-566 WID-821 W-cc89b8ff-2004-4039-a8e6-bcb5aca78c78 Draft EIS 12/6/2007 4:00:00 PM As a conservation biologist trained at Stanford, I am very surprised that the BLM has selected Alternative 2 as your preferred plan. I disagree that this alternative best fits the BLM's mission and legal directives. Clear-cutting has been shown to increase future fire danger as well as cause serious damage to fish & wildlife habitat. Narrower buffers along waterways is a step backwards - we should be increasing these buffers based on the best available science. Reduced reserves for Spotted Owls and Marbled Murrelets will not help them, as required by the Endangered Species Act and other applicable legislation. Finally, with home building leveling off and probably decreasing, there likely be less demand for timber, not more. Let's be prudent and protect as much of our irreplaceable natural forests as possible for the benefit of fish, wildlife, people and jobs. Find economically viable ways to fund the thinning of smaller trees which will improve the ability of our larger trees to withstand forest fires. Increasing clearcutting and decreasing protections for fish, birds & other wildlife is not the mandate given to the BLM. I urge you to select the No-Action Alternative. Better yet, craft an alternative that focuses on more protections for wildlife habitat while also thinning small-diameter trees from previously logged forests that are at greatest threat from catastrophic wildfire. Thank you, Charles Quinn, 97405
WC-567 WID-834 None Interactive Map 12/7/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 2: I support Alternative 2 over the other alternatives.
WC-568 WID-828 W-2845ebed-867d-4178-a679-eeaa4327965f Draft EIS 12/7/2007 11:01:00 AM My husband and I live around a lot of trees and we urge you to have a responsible and sustainable management of BLM forest lands in the Coos Bay District. It is imperative that we have a responsible forest management plan. Thank you.
WC-569 WID-832 W-f4d5b463-15f6-4439-a6af-3d9ee251ee2d Draft EIS 12/7/2007 4:32:00 PM To whom it may concern, I would like to know just how you think your agency is going to implement an illegal plan? Don't you realize that the NWFP offers bare minimum protection for habitat and species and you are trying to downgrade those protections here. The private lands that are checkerboarded around BLM are all young mono-culture acreages. How can you propose this increse in harvesting of old growth when you know there's not much left? This is the height of irresponsibility and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Don't you realize that the flood situations we have just gone through are exacerbated by heavy industrial logging in the upperparts of these watersheds. Global warming will only intensify this situation and you folks are proposing to stick your stupid extractive heads in the sand as if everything is normal. When are you folks going to get your you know together? I thought you were the ones with degrees and education? I guess you only learned the OSU method of extractive forestry and you never learned a holistic approach to sustainable land management. This whole process is a joke and you can bet that it will end in numerous litigational extravaganzas and provide much needed work for starving lawyers. Meanwhile, the management that is needed on our public lands(road ripping, pre-commercial thinning and the such)is woefully neglected. I have lived in rural clackamas county for 8 years now and I am not concerned with the county payments program. It's high time that rural counties stop sucking from the govt. trough and become independent of this welfare program. We are independent folk and we don't need bailouts from uncle sam. In the long run, intact old growth watersheds will provide much more sustained revenue to the counties than a short cut and run timber program that leaves us with destroyed landscapes and underfunded schools and government services. So in summation, I believe the "No Action Alternative is the only rational decision concerning this insidious end around environmental protection of the last heritage forests in our region. Sincerely, John Rancher
WC-570 WID-836 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 1: For the last 25 years the management of our Western Oregon forests has resulted in the loss of economic livelihood for many towns big and small. There is no calculating the loss to the social fabric. If this Alternative means the least intrusion of the government in our forests then I'm for it. The summaries of the alternatives do not indicate what economic factors come to play in the decision making. - it all seems to be based on forest ecology and not human ecology.
WC-571 WID-836 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 2: For the last 25 years the management of our Western Oregon forests has resulted in the loss of economic livelihood for many towns big and small. There is no calculating the loss to the social fabric. If this Alternative means the least intrusion of the government in our forests then I'm for it. The summaries of the alternatives do not indicate what economic factors come to play in the decision making. - it all seems to be based on forest ecology and not human ecology.
WC-572 WID-836 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 3: For the last 25 years the management of our Western Oregon forests has resulted in the loss of economic livelihood for many towns big and small. There is no calculating the loss to the social fabric. If this Alternative means the least intrusion of the government in our forests then I'm for it. The summaries of the alternatives do not indicate what economic factors come to play in the decision making. - it all seems to be based on forest ecology and not human ecology.
WC-573 WID-837 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 2: I favor this Alternative, but would request that the BLM Harvest the Largest amount of timber that will still allow for sustainable forest growth. The Enviromentalists should be fought on this issue, with every resource that the BLM has.
WC-574 WID-840 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Forests: It looks as though most of BLM forests are young and that preserving older structurally complex forest should be an extremely high priority.
WC-575 WID-840 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from No Action: This plan is the only one that comes close to restoring the forest to pre-European settlement conditions and I very strongly believe that should be our goal. So much of the world's forests have been destroyed that it is critical to the quality of our water, air, land, and our very lives to preserve what is left. I think that almost no sacrifice would be too great to preserve our forests. The two things that do concern me about this plan are the roads withing sediment delivery systems and the lack of focus on high intrinsic potential fishery areas. If we could implement a plan that would address these issues then we would have the best of all alternatives. Please save the old growth trees and the associated healthy habitat for future generations%21
WC-576 WID-840 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 2: Eliminating all structurally complex forests and harvesting 43%25 of existing old forest is a destructive and tragic idea. I am horrified that this alternative is reportedly the preferred alternative by the BLM. Please set an example and save our old growth forests.
WC-577 WID-840 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 3: 63%25 is too much of our old growth forests to cut down. They are a national treasure that should be protected even at a great cost.
WC-578 WID-836 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from No Action: For the last 25 years the management of our Western Oregon forests has resulted in the loss of economic livelihood for many towns big and small. There is no calculating the loss to the social fabric. If this Alternative means the least intrusion of the government in our forests then I'm for it. The summaries of the alternatives do not indicate what economic factors come to play in the decision making. - it all seems to be based on forest ecology and not human ecology.
WC-579 WID-840 None Interactive Map 12/8/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 1: Preserving no mature and structurally complex forest area in the harvest base is unacceptable and I am shocked that it is a consideration.
WC-580 WID-838 W-97d294d6-c94b-4bf7-8237-049f7e038262 Draft EIS 12/8/2007 3:24:00 PM As a 19 year Forest Lookout I urge you to reject any alternative that calls for clear cutting. Therefore Alternative 2 is unacceptable as it will increase fire danger in the interface areas and my preference would be No Action Alternative.
WC-581 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|cb_1-4timesyear|tb_gen_ans:
WC-582 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from VIDEO Siuslaw River Corridor: Difficult to understand the audio on my computer.
WC-583 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from VIDEO Siuslaw River Corridor: I was only able to see one of the options%3B couldn't get back to check the other.
WC-584 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_photo|tb_2_other: It is a place I have committed to caring for, having pulled noxious weeds up Cummins Ridge Road for five or more years.|cb_hiking|cb_camping|cb_spiritual|cb_importantspecies|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_relax|tb_4_other: It is close to where I go recreate at the ocean, and I come here to camp. There are elk there, among other animals.|cb_1-4timesyear|tb_gen_ans: Four or five times a year at least
WC-585 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from VIDEO Siuslaw River Corridor: Please keep the No Action alternative.
WC-586 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Forests: I would like us to save any remaining old growth. This is irreplaceable and it is arrogant of us to think that we can "fix" it after we have destroyed it. We need it for ecological and spiritual reasons, not all of which we are capable of understanding.
WC-587 WID-842 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from No Action: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. None of the proposed alternatives are an improvement over the original plan.
WC-588 WID-845 None Interactive Map 12/9/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Alternative 2: I prefer Alternative 2 with the exception of reducing riparian protections.I beleive the cut levels associated with Alternative 2 to be acceptable, but would prefer we not weaken the protections of our riparian sections.
WC-589 WID-844 W-cf85fed8-2adc-4a44-8bfd-2c89ccc2dbf9 Draft EIS 12/9/2007 9:37:00 AM I am in favor of alternative 2. It's a responsible way to produce timber, create jobs and revenues to our State. It makes more sense to log our fine forests responsibly then letting nature take its course to further control overgrowth as it has done long before man intruded. It is ludicrous that we have to buy lumber from other countries and lose the revenue to our State when our forests are burning away because we don't properly log them. The activists who try to save a tree are not even from Oregon.
WC-590 WID-844 W-bf9bc5b1-ecc3-4d12-8e7c-2d0356a9c40b Draft EIS 12/9/2007 10:07:00 AM I say yes on Alternative 2. I think its time to remember the order of things. No one is going to allow uncontrolled clear cutting any longer. Logging is a necessity to our local economy. We can't sit by and watch local families become unable to thrive where they live. We need logging revenues, we need local people to work and contribute to the local economy. And, we need to preserve our natural surroundings responsively. Alternative 2 will stimulate our local economy. I read Toler say voters shouldn't count on this alternative. Well Toler, let's hear a better solution! Also, actions from tree huggers from elsewhere are not helping our economy, go home and help your own community. Concerned from Grants Pass, Oregon
WC-591 WID-847 W-a550b439-5f42-41ca-ba3a-7913f0474b39 Draft EIS 12/9/2007 11:36:00 AM I strongly urge you to take the NO ACTION ALTERNATIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WC-592 WID-861 None Interactive Map 12/10/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Off-Highway Vehicles: I love the ride my ATV on the old logging roads in my area - I think a well developed OHV plan is an excellent idea if it involves the cooperation of local OHV clubs. They do a great job of taking care of the land.
WC-593 WID-861 None Interactive Map 12/10/2007 12:00:00 AM cb_farming|cb_mtnbiking|cb_hiking|cb_ohv|cb_fulltime|cb_scenicbeauty|cb_onceaweek|tb_gen_ans: I work play and live here - I would like to see a well developed OHV plan developed that will work with local OHV clubs to maintain trails and keep our forest and lands beautiful.
WC-594 WID-856 W-41110ec4-8a85-41ec-81d0-762474843aa3 Draft EIS 12/10/2007 12:19:00 PM I would like to say that I think that it is a bad Idea to Promote any of these areas as off Road use ,there is already a problem with off road Vehicles as they are loud and obnoxious,they throw thier trash out,they poach all types of wild life day or night,all year long,they are dope growers,cookers of Meth,and drug traffickers.The Off Roaders Ride on the Pavement and think that they are above the Law,There is a School bus turn around and a single lane road to many peoples houses,we do not need anymore Thankless OFF Roaders were we live! People live here for a number of reasons and all of the above reasons mentioned are not why me and my neighbors live here,we Love the Quiet and peacefull beauty of this area and do not like what goes on with the Don`t give a shit Off Roaders who have no respect for the land,they are hard to catch after they commit a crime,we would all like to never see them or hear them again,bottom line to this Idea of bringing more of these Ass holes to were we live,they need to find a dirt track some were so that they can all ride at a given location in a controlled environment because they are out of controll.What the B.L.M Should be doing is Chasing these Off Roaders Out For Good! They Have Lost Their Privlage to Off Road Use As Far as we are concerned. Get Rid Of Them!!! No More Off Roaders!!!
WC-595 WID-859 W-acb12852-b91b-4900-817e-a79ea780585f Draft EIS 12/10/2007 1:22:00 PM I recommend rejecting any alternative that includes clearcutting because it destroys the ecosystem and the regrowth is very prone to serious fire hazard. All logging should be done with up to date, tried and tested practices. Leave some mature trees in all areas of logging. It just makes sense, think about it.
WC-596 WID-863 W-6b76d672-6188-44c5-9a54-8487f2ec2016 Draft EIS 12/10/2007 6:36:00 PM I am very concerned and outraged at the current BLM's Western Oregon Plan Revision, known as WOPR. If implemented, it would increase logging on over 2 million acres of forests including much of the last remaining old growth in western Oregon's public lands. It would also add 1,000 miles of new logging road construction and decrease the buffer zones that protect riparian areas from 300 feet to 100 feet and less. Wilbur Heath's letter in the R-G on 11/18 writes that protecting these forests and streams is "locking up the land." Preserving in-tact ecosystems that many species need for survival and we need for clean drinking water is keeping the land free. Locking up the land would be clear- cutting it. Raping and decimating it. We have got to shift the economic focus in this state to plan for our future for many generations to come. Clear-cutting the last of the old-growth forests is exactly the opposite direction we need to go to even have a future! We need to take into account the end of the oil economy, climate change, population growth and species extinction. Let's focus on preserving local farmlands and old growth forests and implement truly sustainable forestry methods. Build our economy using alternative resources for green building and promote the eco-tourism industry. How about subsidizing solar manufacturing and other renewable energy plants in Oregon? The timber industry needs to take the back seat for a change. Public comments are being taken until January for the Bureau of Land Management's W.O.P.R. of a mistake. Lin Hamlin 39343 Eagles Rest RD Dexter 97431
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WC-598 WID-870 None Interactive Map 12/11/2007 12:00:00 AM Comment on DEIS excerpt from Fish: Fish need clean water-- maintain large buffers
WC-599 WID-863 W-6bf1ca0a-1da9-40b1-890c-b58b787526e9 Draft EIS 12/11/2007 8:26:00 AM I am very concerned and outraged at the current BLM's Western Oregon Plan Revision, known as WOPR. If implemented, it would increase logging on over 2 million acres of forests including much of the last remaining old growth in western Oregon's public lands. It would also add 1,000 miles of new logging road construction and decrease the buffer zones that protect riparian areas from 300 feet to 100 feet and less. Wilbur Heath's letter in the R-G on 11/18 writes that protecting these forests and streams is "locking up the land." Preserving in-tact ecosystems that many species need for survival and we need for clean drinking water is keeping the land free. Locking up the land would be clear- cutting it. Raping and decimating it. We have got to shift the economic focus in this state to plan for our future for many generations to come. Clear-cutting the last of the old-growth forests is exactly the opposite direction we need to go to even have a future! We need to take into account the end of the oil economy, climate change, population growth and species extinction. Let's focus on preserving local farmlands and old growth forests and implement truly sustainable forestry methods. Build our economy using alternative resources for green building and promote the eco-tourism industry. How about subsidizing solar manufacturing and other renewable energy plants in Oregon? The timber industry needs to take the back seat for a change. Sincerely, Rick Wetzel
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